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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1933 Double Eagle... at least for rarity... I believe there's only one

    Leo
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote the Hunley $20 gold piece.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The '33 double eagle scares me 'cause there could be ten in two years for all we know...
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  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
    1889-CC PCGS MS64DMPL ... if you have one ... sell it to ME!!!

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO, the Holy Grail, in this context, should be a mythical coin that you can never obtain. I would choose the 1849 Liberty $20 since it exists, has legendary status, yet cannot be owned.
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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    I want the one that Jesus tipped the waiters with at the last supper. Now that's a coin.

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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1792 half disme
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>IMO, the Holy Grail, in this context, should be a mythical coin that you can never obtain. I would choose the 1849 Liberty $20 since it exists, has legendary status, yet cannot be owned. >>



    Is this the one in the Smithsonian collection? I actually got the chance to see this coin when we lived in MD.

    Leo
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't know about Holy Grail, But I hear it's the "Worlds Finest"image
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't know about Holy Grail, But I hear it's the "Worlds Finest"image >>



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  • lclugzalclugza Posts: 568 ✭✭
    How about the 1873S No Arrows half dollar, the 1873S Liberty Seated dollar, and the 1964D Peace dollar? I hear they're as scarce as hen's teeth.
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  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744 ✭
    MCMVII $20 Ultra High Relief. I don't care if there are 20 or so extant, it is still an awesome piece of artwork.

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  • CurleyCurley Posts: 134
    For me it would be a Continental Dollar in PQ MS63!
  • centmastercentmaster Posts: 504 ✭
    A 1964 Peace Dollar surfacing would turn the hobby upside down.
  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1895 Morgan dollar business strike
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  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    Seems a little bid odd, but I also consider the 1964 Peace Dollar as the "Holy Grail" of American coins.......
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    The MS68 (or is it MS69) 1793 Large Cent; better known as "The Coin".

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  • ccexccex Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    1802 Half Dime in AU-55 or better. I think I'll have better odds of seeing another 1933 $20 or a 1964-D $1 coin in my lifetime before an uncirculated or close 1802 half dime sufaces.
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  • KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I want the one that Jesus tipped the waiters with at the last supper. Now that's a coin. >>



    I heard he stiffed themimage
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭
    I agree with the ultra-high relief Saint nomination. Rarity is part of the equation, as is history, but artistry to me is more important.

    If you forced me to pick a coin that was unique, I would vote for the Contursi 1794 silver dollar. Unique, histroically important, and while not quite as sophisticated as the Saint, still a wonderful design.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe not THE Holy Grail, but a 1964-D Peace dollar comes to mind as a possibility.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1792 half disme >>



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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭


    << <i>1895 Morgan dollar business strike >>



    That would be my choice too, the most fitting analogue to the holy grail.

    More practically, for my own collecting though, it would be a 1900-O/CC DMPL.
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  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd have to say the finest known 1804 dollar. The finest known 1913 Liberty nickel comes in a close second. I'd put the 1933 double eagle in at third.... b/c of the other known examples that have came into the light since the 7M auction.

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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    Another Morgan candidate and one I think I might have possibly gotten today (subject to seeing in person over my interpretation of web images naturally) after a quarter century of looking is the 1887/6-S. Might be it or not. Might exist or not.
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    The Holy Grail for the entire hobby.... hmmmmm.......

    Hell I was happy with my MS65FBL PCGS 1953 S Frankie......
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  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    The silver dollar that George Washington threw across the Potomac River.

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1802 Half Dime in AU-55 or better. I think I'll have better odds of seeing another 1933 $20 or a 1964-D $1 coin in my lifetime before an uncirculated or close 1802 half dime sufaces
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    IMHO this is the rarest coin that actually circulated.
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree with the ultra-high relief Saint nomination. Rarity is part of the equation, as is history, but artistry to me is more important >>



    Artist, I agree with you fully on this pick image
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    the very first coin ever to be struck first one off the presses at the mint in philly
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭
    i'd offer my take on the 1849 double eagle and some other "unique" one offs
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  • jabbajabba Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MCMVII $20 Ultra High Relief. I don't care if there are 20 or so extant, it is still an awesome piece of artwork.

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  • JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    The coins I own. Now if I could just convince the rest of the world. Wish me luck; I'll need it. image jws

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  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683 ✭
    Historically the Holy Grail was always the 1804 dollar. Thanks to B. Max Mehl, the 1913 Liberty nickel also rose to that level of prominence.

    There are too many unique coins for any one of them to be called "THE Holy Grail." The unique gold coins in the Smithsonian include not only the 1849 $20, but also the two famed half union ($50) patterns. There are now at least (13) 1933 Saints in existence, so those are too numerous !! The J-1776 (now called J-1905) pattern double eagle also comes to mind as a unique and highly desirable pattern coin. Other unique coins include the the 1870-S half dime, 1870-S $3, 1873-CC No Arrows dime, 1797 16 stars $5. With respect to the 1849 $20, however, it is thought that at least two were struck. If another one turned up, it would instantly become the new Holy Grail !!

    Failing that, I would vote for any one of the three legitimate issues thought to have been struck for circulation, but now unconfirmed in any collection: 1873-S No Arrows half dollar, 1873-S seated dollar, and 1841-O half eagle. By contrast, the 1895 business strike dollar is now believed by some researchers never to have existed. For years it was assumed they were melted down, but now it is thought that perhaps the 12,000 pieces recorded on the books may not have been dated 1895. As the proofs of that date are readily obtainable for a price, that is less interesting to me anyway.

    I always fantasized about finding an 1873-S seated dollar, or a high grade 1793 "Strawberry Leaf" cent. I always believed the strawberry leaf cent to be a legitimate mint product, as the leaf design is the same as that used on the reverse. An uncirculated 1853-O No Arrows half dollar would be pretty cool too !! As a date, the 1822 $5 also comes to mind.

    One other fantasy coin for me would be a J-58 Gobrecht dollar (name below base) in Die Alginment I - a true "original." It is often said that 15 to 18 originals were struck, but none has been seen. However, I personally believe there was never any such striking, and that all J-58 are backdated delicacies.

    Best,
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  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    I have two fantasies about coins I'd call the "Holy Grail". First one is Sunnywoods too--a lovely brown EF45/AU55 Strawberryleaf Cent that turns up in a lot box of corroded large cents at our local estate auction(s) here in town. The other would be a true Deep Mirror Prooflike 1893S with old album style target toning of blues ringing shades of red and lighter yellow----hopefully in the same sale where everyone thinks it's a fake!image
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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414 ✭


    To me it's been the 1822 $5's.


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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>Hell I was happy with my MS65FBL PCGS 1953 S Frankie...... >>



    Heh. I was going to say a razor sharp struck, 53S Franklin with chiseled bell lines.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    The Judd 1776(I think this has been changed) $20 St. Gaudens. I believe there are TWO...PERIOD...NO Izzy Switt! image

    Head of Indian with Eagle aAND DATE on reverse. Yeah, it was a pattern, but just look at this reproduction!! Roman Numeral date too!

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO, the Holy Grail, in this context, should be a mythical coin that you can never obtain. I would choose the 1849 Liberty $20 since it exists, has legendary status, yet cannot be owned.

    It's likely that a second piece exists. If it's where I think it is, it will probably be offered for sale within the next 20 years.
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  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979 ✭
    I'm with those of you on the ultra high relief Saint, for artistry.

    I also would consider the Brasher Doubloon an historical holy grail.
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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    1876-CC 20¢

    About 16 known to exist.
  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    The Nova Constellatio Patterns are the "Holy Grail" of numismatics, in my opinion. They are part of the John J. Ford holdings and should be auctioned by Stacks in the next year or so.
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    For me, either the 1964-D Peace dollar, or J-1776.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    The Continental Currency Pieces.........dated 1776.........
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    The Zeb Farfooney Hobo Nickel. That man went to hell and back 20 times and still had his nickel!
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it's where I think it is, it will probably be offered for sale within the next 20 years. >>



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  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037 ✭
    1907 $20 Ultra High relief
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think that the "holy grail within the entire hobby" would be a U.S. coin. Afterall, we're talking about a country that has been minting coins for only a few hundred years.

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭
    damn foreigner!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The $50 gold Half Union pattern. Only two known and both are in the Smithsonian. A very impressive coin.

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