I think its NT with altered photos. I'm not sure if its mine or his screen that would allow for that difference. That being said, I think the coin is NT despite the photo appearing AT.
I dig the colors,but not fond of the Kennedy series.Could not comment until i saw it in hand,but even if its not NT,and i am not saying it isnt,i STILL dig the color spectrum.
Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
How much would you like to bet Ziggy? My minimum bet would be $500 and my max would be $10,000. I can send the coin to Coinguy1, or another respected objective member, and he can compare it to the pics...what say you?
<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
How much would you like to bet Ziggy? My minimum bet would be $500 and my max would be $10,000. I can send the coin to Coinguy1, or another respected objective member, and he can compare it to the pics...what say you?
Doug >>
I've seen that coin - It's not a bet Ziggy should make
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<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
I have seen it in-hand and the coin is more impressive than the image.
<< <i>I've seen it in-hand. NT without a doubt. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a class in 'Toning 101'. JMHO. >>
Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. Maybe a Toning 101 class would help you as well.
Man, I love beautiful coins, toned or Original skinned, thick unbroken lustered White. Doesn't matter as long as it is really pretty .... BUT, I don't like color THAT much !
Beautiful work, as in someone sure has perfected a NT method.
Hello, Can you please tell me what is NT and AT? I am kind of new to collecting toned coins and bought my first one from a member on here and it has really nice colors. (Battle Creek Morgan Dollar) I can see why people get hooked on collecting rainbow toned coins. Have a great day, Dan
<< <i>I've seen it in-hand. NT without a doubt. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a class in 'Toning 101'. JMHO. >>
Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. Maybe a Toning 101 class would help you as well. >>
It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning.
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
<< <i>Remember a couple of years ago when this coin was offered for sale at $750 and was reduced before selling? Turned it down then and will still pass. >>
Ummm...no. This coin has NEVER been offered for $750 in the three years I owned it.
However, before my ownership, it did sell at a major auction house for $2,200 and then went to Bryan Sonnier's collection. Bryan then traded it to me for an unbelievable Morgan Toner.
Ok, you can remove your foot from your mouth now Ray...
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
Doug >>
With even greater respect, maybe you should sign up for Dizzy's toning 101 seminar...
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Foot NEVER in mouth! I remember that coin being offered at $750 and I was told it sold for $600 when I contacted the seller years ago. Then, perhaps is when you bought it. I might have lost track in time, BUT, not that coin! I have a scan of it in my virtual collection, but, never had an interest in owning it since it looks TOO loud! Never saw it in person so I won't say AT or not. There have been MANY coins overhyped/overprocessed in photos. I started collecting Kennedys when I got back into coins in 2000. It wasn't in the first yera, so maybe even almost 4-5 years ago for time? Still was overpriced in my mind. probably a nice piece though. Good luck. Foot's now in your ballpark!
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<< <i>Foot NEVER in mouth! I remember that coin being offered at $750 and I was told it sold for $600 when I contacted the seller years ago. Then, perhaps is when you bought it. I might have lost track in time, BUT, not that coin! I have a scan of it in my virtual collection, but, never had an interest in owning it since it looks TOO loud! Never saw it in person so I won't say AT or not. There have been MANY coins overhyped/overprocessed in photos. I started collecting Kennedys when I got back into coins in 2000. It wasn't in the first yera, so maybe even almost 4-5 years ago for time? Still was overpriced in my mind. probably a nice piece though. Good luck. Foot's now in your ballpark! >>
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Doug >>
...ebay, although a great venue for many collectibles, is NOT the best venue for monster toned coins IMHO. Major auction houses or dealers with connections to the clientele are the two best ways to show what these precious treasures are really worth. Getting back to this Kennedy, again, I've seen it in-hand, studied it very carefully, and almost deviated from my commem focus and almost purchased it. Not that I am any sort of role model to anyone, but for me to almost buy a non-commem of that magnitude, is definitely saying something about the coin...IMHO.
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
Doug >>
Seems like you are protesting too much, which means you are getting emotional, perhaps because you own the coin and have a vested interest at assuring us that it is NT. First off I did not say it was AT, just that I could see how some could come to that conclusion. Second I do know what I am talking about. It is not clearly NT, and is not "inarguably" and if you think it is clearly you should really talk to Bob Campbell, maybe even take a seminar by him or even check out his video from the ANA library, all of which I have done.
The coin is clearly air transfer, that's good, the color rainbow is in the correct order, again good for NT, and PCGS agrees that it is NT. But it is not clearly, of course not knowing provenance, e.g. it was sent to PCGS in the original mint packaging, clearly proving that it was. NT. We all know that PCGS is ALWAYS correct.
The factor that I believe that any knowledgeable coin guy would have a few reasons to think there is a possibility that it is AT, like I stated before, is how the colors flow over the details. Its one thing to have even toning over the fields but another over the details. Bob Campbell states in his teachings to watch for this, the reason being is that air flows around details and deposits the reacting chemicals in differing quantity depending on how air flows around and over the coin. If something occurs rapidly, with fast moving air, and not over long periods of time, it will not move around the details, like the date. Note the other pictures in the post of the other toned coins and how the toning differs depending on the depth of the devices. Another thing Bob Campbell states is that the metal that flows into the details like the date is hardened and will not react the same as a smooth field with the reacting chemicals and often will not even tone. This coin violates some of the basic tests and passes some of them - result you can not state that is is clearly AT or NT. Personally I pass judgement, since I have not seen the coin in hand.
Any "Expert"? Am I incorrect about my analysis of this coin?
<< <i>It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. Not to 'toot my own horn' but I am extremely confident in my ability to decipher between what is genuine and worthy and what is not. If I hadn't seen the Kennedy in-hand, then I would just be 'shooting from the hip' like anyone else who hasn't seen it, but I have and it's the genuine article.
<< <i><< It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. >>
Well, the guy you responded to, (Clackamas) with your "graduated Summa cum laude" comment has all of that - and many times the number of years in the hobby that you do. Your passion is nice, but I'll trust his opinion and listen to his concerns.
<< <i><< It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. >>
Well, the guy you responded to, (Clackamas) with your "graduated Summa cum laude" comment has all of that - and many times the number of years in the hobby that you do. Your passion is nice, but I'll trust his opinion and listen to his concerns.
Russ, NCNE >>
I will always listen to concerns and opinions from fellow forum members. That's why I hang out here as often as my wife and kids allow me to. However, since I am an avid believer that if someone is going to argue against a knowledgeable dealer AND the rendered opinion by one of the TPG's, then they sure had better have seen the coin in-hand. At that time, and only at that time, is an opinion taken to heart and worthy of true consideration IMHO. Years and years of collecting coins or even dealing coins in no way shape or form makes someone an automatic expert of anything. There is so much more to it than 'time passing by' IMO.
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Doug >>
As a collector who has paid huge money for MOOSE toned common date coins in high grade,on this, Doug is 100% correct.JMHO
Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
<< <i>Not that I am any sort of role model to anyone, but for me to almost buy a non-commem of that magnitude, is definitely saying something about the coin...IMHO. >>
Dizzy, you just might be my new hero. Interesting you went to bat for one of his Peace$ as well. Why not pull the trigger. After all.... it is the "Worlds Finest." LMAO, amazing how certain coins coming from certain sellers and certain people imaging a coin always have scrutiny after all these years. And yes, I believe I have seen this one in person.
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Cool coin.
Yes- and this kennedy's toning has been discussed before.... I think it's been for sale for a while now....
What a steal
<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
How much would you like to bet Ziggy? My minimum bet would be $500 and my max would be $10,000. I can send the coin to Coinguy1, or another respected objective member, and he can compare it to the pics...what say you?
Doug
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<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
How much would you like to bet Ziggy? My minimum bet would be $500 and my max would be $10,000. I can send the coin to Coinguy1, or another respected objective member, and he can compare it to the pics...what say you?
Doug >>
I've seen that coin - It's not a bet Ziggy should make
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<< <i>Looks like an enhanced Bondman-style image of a probably NT coin. But I'll bet it's not that spectacular in hand. Look at the color of the label. >>
I have seen it in-hand and the coin is more impressive than the image.
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<< <i>I've seen it in-hand. NT without a doubt. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a class in 'Toning 101'.
Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. Maybe a Toning 101 class would help you as well.
Beautiful work, as in someone sure has perfected a NT method.
Can you please tell me what is NT and AT? I am kind of new to collecting toned coins and bought my first one from a member on here and it has really nice colors. (Battle Creek Morgan Dollar) I can see why people get hooked on collecting rainbow toned coins. Have a great day,
Dan
AT = Artificially Toned.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
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<< <i>I've seen it in-hand. NT without a doubt. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a class in 'Toning 101'.
Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. Maybe a Toning 101 class would help you as well. >>
It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning.
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
Doug
<< <i>Remember a couple of years ago when this coin was offered for sale at $750 and was reduced before selling? Turned it down then and will still pass. >>
Ummm...no. This coin has NEVER been offered for $750 in the three years I owned it.
However, before my ownership, it did sell at a major auction house for $2,200 and then went to Bryan Sonnier's collection. Bryan then traded it to me for an unbelievable Morgan Toner.
Ok, you can remove your foot from your mouth now Ray...
Doug
<< <i>
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
Doug >>
With even greater respect, maybe you should sign up for Dizzy's toning 101 seminar...
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Doug
<< <i>Foot NEVER in mouth! I remember that coin being offered at $750 and I was told it sold for $600 when I contacted the seller years ago. Then, perhaps is when you bought it. I might have lost track in time, BUT, not that coin! I have a scan of it in my virtual collection, but, never had an interest in owning it since it looks TOO loud! Never saw it in person so I won't say AT or not. There have been MANY coins overhyped/overprocessed in photos. I started collecting Kennedys when I got back into coins in 2000. It wasn't in the first yera, so maybe even almost 4-5 years ago for time? Still was overpriced in my mind. probably a nice piece though. Good luck. Foot's now in your ballpark!
And oh what a ballpark I have...just ask my ex!
but the pix in your registry set is of a diffrent 64-D ,,,,,,,,,,,,
if i may ask; what does the one above grade ?
now go ahead , string me up and cut my testicals off ..........
<< <i>and i will throw in my 2 cents and say i.m.h opinion - i go with A.T ..........
now go ahead , string me up and cut my testicals off .......... >>
No need, you just did it to yourself with your opinion.
Nice to meet you at the show, by the way!
Doug
<< <i>
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Doug >>
<< <i>
<< <i>Toning that goes equally over the lettering/date/legned is a classic sign of caution and raises a red flag with toning. Notice any Morgan with NT toning and see how the toning flows over the lettering. It looks different than that, hence I can see how one could come to the conclusion as AT without any other factors to consider. >>
With all due respect, you have NO idea what you are talking about. As many toning experts here have already confirmed, this coin is inarguably Naturally Toned. Perhaps you should stayed focused on discussing threads with nice white coins...
Doug >>
Seems like you are protesting too much, which means you are getting emotional, perhaps because you own the coin and have a vested interest at assuring us that it is NT. First off I did not say it was AT, just that I could see how some could come to that conclusion. Second I do know what I am talking about. It is not clearly NT, and is not "inarguably" and if you think it is clearly you should really talk to Bob Campbell, maybe even take a seminar by him or even check out his video from the ANA library, all of which I have done.
The coin is clearly air transfer, that's good, the color rainbow is in the correct order, again good for NT, and PCGS agrees that it is NT. But it is not clearly, of course not knowing provenance, e.g. it was sent to PCGS in the original mint packaging, clearly proving that it was. NT. We all know that PCGS is ALWAYS correct.
The factor that I believe that any knowledgeable coin guy would have a few reasons to think there is a possibility that it is AT, like I stated before, is how the colors flow over the details. Its one thing to have even toning over the fields but another over the details. Bob Campbell states in his teachings to watch for this, the reason being is that air flows around details and deposits the reacting chemicals in differing quantity depending on how air flows around and over the coin. If something occurs rapidly, with fast moving air, and not over long periods of time, it will not move around the details, like the date. Note the other pictures in the post of the other toned coins and how the toning differs depending on the depth of the devices. Another thing Bob Campbell states is that the metal that flows into the details like the date is hardened and will not react the same as a smooth field with the reacting chemicals and often will not even tone. This coin violates some of the basic tests and passes some of them - result you can not state that is is clearly AT or NT. Personally I pass judgement, since I have not seen the coin in hand.
Any "Expert"? Am I incorrect about my analysis of this coin?
BTW - why did you need to ask if this was NT or AT?1960 Frankiln thread
<< <i>It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. Not to 'toot my own horn' but I am extremely confident in my ability to decipher between what is genuine and worthy and what is not. If I hadn't seen the Kennedy in-hand, then I would just be 'shooting from the hip' like anyone else who hasn't seen it, but I have and it's the genuine article.
<< <i><< It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. >>
Well, the guy you responded to, (Clackamas) with your "graduated Summa cum laude" comment has all of that - and many times the number of years in the hobby that you do. Your passion is nice, but I'll trust his opinion and listen to his concerns.
Russ, NCNE
they saw it in hand and judged it NT.
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<< <i><< It's NT without a doubt so there's no question there, and I've graduated Summa cum laude while majoring in Toning. >>
And, Dizzy, you've been collecting for what, a whole year now?
Russ, NCNE >>
Mr. Russ, you don't know me and vice versa, but if you did, you would know that when I get "into" a hobby, I 'GET INTO' a hobby. My studies, experience, contacts, conversations, show experiences etc. etc. in the last year and a half has gained me more knowledge and understanding than many collectors might gain in many years of being part of this hobby. Knowledge, expertise, and just plain having an educated opinion, doesn't take long arduous years to achieve and is not accomplished over night either. What it does take is passion, willingness to learn and absorb as much knowledge and information as possible, and the ability to extract wisdom from those who are highly respected within a given field. >>
Well, the guy you responded to, (Clackamas) with your "graduated Summa cum laude" comment has all of that - and many times the number of years in the hobby that you do. Your passion is nice, but I'll trust his opinion and listen to his concerns.
Russ, NCNE >>
I will always listen to concerns and opinions from fellow forum members. That's why I hang out here as often as my wife and kids allow me to.
However, since I am an avid believer that if someone is going to argue against a knowledgeable dealer AND the rendered opinion by one of the TPG's, then they sure had better have seen the coin in-hand. At that time, and only at that time, is an opinion taken to heart and worthy of true consideration IMHO. Years and years of collecting coins or even dealing coins in no way shape or form makes someone an automatic expert of anything. There is so much more to it than 'time passing by' IMO.
<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
<< <i>Years and years of collecting coins or even dealing coins in no way shape or form makes someone an automatic expert of anything. >>
Nor does a single year of experience buying graded toned coins.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>Sell it no reserve starting at a penny & let's see what it's REALLY worth. >>
That might give a small indication of value but is not the final word since it all depends on who is watching that week. Plus, many many high end toned collectors simply do not browse or buy on eBay. They go to high end toned dealers and major auction houses.
Doug >>
As a collector who has paid huge money for MOOSE toned common date coins in high grade,on this, Doug is 100% correct.JMHO
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<< <i>and i will throw in my 2 cents and say i.m.h opinion - i go with A.T ..........
now go ahead , string me up and cut my testicals off .......... >>
No need, you just did it to yourself with your opinion.
Nice to meet you at the show, by the way!
Doug >>
OH my ~~~~ ``~!!!
you mean THAT coin , owned by my dear friend Doug
what am i - blind ??
Now i see the coin in it`s true light - and yes, by jinkies ...........IT IS N.T ~~~~!!
but this brings up a good point about ownership influencing opinions........
Not knowing the identity of the owner- i had no hesitation to call it a.t.
Now, realizing the owner is a guy i met at the show, with a case FULL of
monster toned goodies, my mind is changed ..........
I have met hundreds and hundreds of dealers , but this Doug struck me as something special-
as i`m sure he is ..............
point being : had i known it was his coin -i never would have said it was A.T. .........
even if i thought it was ! !
<< <i>Not that I am any sort of role model to anyone, but for me to almost buy a non-commem of that magnitude, is definitely saying something about the coin...IMHO. >>
Dizzy, you just might be my new hero. Interesting you went to bat for one of his Peace$ as well. Why not pull the trigger.
After all.... it is the "Worlds Finest." LMAO, amazing how certain coins coming from certain sellers and certain people imaging a coin
always have scrutiny after all these years. And yes, I believe I have seen this one in person.