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Metal Meltdown....
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Looks like Metals are taking a dive....
what are you doing.....
A. selling asap while you are still ahead...
B. buying while its cheap.....
C. couldnt care less...
what are you doing.....
A. selling asap while you are still ahead...
B. buying while its cheap.....
C. couldnt care less...
Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
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Selling to the speculators and buying on the dips...hee hee
Buy low, sell high? Oh, I had that ars backwards. That explains a lot!
Dave
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Does that sound odd from a dealer? Not really. As a small dealer I often need to get coins from other dealers, and this market few of those guys need to sell anything to me. I also see evidence of the “1980 market” when the real collectors stopped buying and the “market makers” were speculators and less than well informed buyers (that’s PC for “ignorant”) who were looking for alternatives to the stock market.
Last week a “Coin World” article claimed that the wholesale market had disappeared for many early coins. That’s about right, and although that might look healthy it’s not a situation that is going to last. There will be a correction.
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B. Not a good answer since it is not cheap yet.
Let's look at what's real. The biggest PM short in the world, Goldman Sachs, just got their home boy into the US Treasury. In addition, they just posted double profits over last year. Welcome to market manipulation, the advanced course. They should be getting ready to cover their shorts soon and the prices will level out.
<< <i>"Where have all the "gold is a great investment!" guys gone?"
Selling to the speculators and buying on the dips...hee hee >>
Ah, people tend to forget that life is full of peaks and valleys, just like the market. Some see a dip and take a dive, while others see a peak and start buying
it doesn't make cents when you don't know what's going on
I'm still not happy with the US mint stopping sales of GOLD PROOFS in 2006.
I don't mind someone raising prices , as long as they drop them with the dips .... Are there any lawyers or politicians in the know as to WHAT legislation is in force to allow stoppage of sales and re adjust prices on any item that is ALREADY marked up with a built in PROFIT ? This was illegal. IMO
But, I still say BUY ... especially when people panic.
Jon, answer B is an oxymoron. I cannot buy it while it's cheap, it's never been cheap. Men die for it !
<<C. couldnt care less... >>
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I did buy a token amount of silver coins at $11/$12 per, and kind of regret doing that, now that silver is back below $10.
I will look for "motivated" sellers. Some of them will be the same folks who bought when the markets where running hot and paying too much premium, may want to dump below spot because they are sure it is going down another 3% tomorrow. When there are lot of these fire sales around, the bottom may be in.
Again, let me repeat that the average collector has no business trying to time the metals markets. Tops are created by lots of buyers, bottoms when there are lots of sellers, so be definition the average person is going to buy near the top and sell near the bottom. Of course, there are exceptional people that are able to time the swings, but they are not the kind of people reading coin boards for investment tips or for validation on their own calls . With the market the way it has been, every one who sold at the top will share their story, while virtually no one who bought the top will tell theirs. Unfortunately, there were a lot more buyers at the top than there were sellers (that's why it is a top).
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Not to worry. It's just a temporary detour on the road to $2000 gold.
Russ, NCNE >>
Whaddaya mean "not to worry"? I just hocked everything I had and cashed in my life savings last week and bought gold at $700 on the recommendations of the bulls around here.
Lord, I got rent due next week. I might need a room and board from some of you seers.
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I covered my shorts last night at $594.80 and missed out on the extra $25 NY contributed
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<< <i>I see alot of people locked in to high gold prices on ebay...bummer >>
Yet another reason to snipe.
<< <i>Yeah, I'm feeling real confident that the Fed is gonna stop printing money, the deficits are going to shrink and that inflation will go away. I can't wait for 1.50 gas again.
Let's look at what's real. The biggest PM short in the world, Goldman Sachs, just got their home boy into the US Treasury. In addition, they just posted double profits over last year. Welcome to market manipulation, the advanced course. They should be getting ready to cover their shorts soon and the prices will level out. >>
<< <i>Below $570 and going down faster than a cheap whore on Russ!!! >>
Russ, NCNE
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
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<< <i>Not to worry. It's just a temporary detour on the road to $2000 gold.
Russ, NCNE >>
Whaddaya mean "not to worry"? I just hocked everything I had and cashed in my life savings last week and bought gold at $700 on the recommendations of the bulls around here.
Lord, I got rent due next week. I might need a room and board from some of you seers. >>
Why not to spend money you don't have. Been there done that. IRS messed up my tax return and I ended up having to borrow money until it got fixed. You will not have to wait too long for it to go back up. Relatively speeking. Buy some more while its low.
<< <i>I'm sitting all cash in the world series right now and I've moved up by four in the rankings over the last couple days.
Russ, NCNE >>
I moved to cash 2 weeks ago but havent moved in the standings. Still stuck at 18.
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Did the GOLD AND SILVER WORLD NEWS, ECONOMIC PREDICTIONS thread call this one correctly?
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<< <i><< I'm sitting all cash in the world series right now and I've moved up by four in the rankings over the last couple days.
Russ, NCNE >>
I moved to cash 2 weeks ago but havent moved in the standings. Still stuck at 18. >>
I'm at 31, so that narrows the losers to #19 through #30.
Russ, NCNE
Zarqawi took Haditha outta the papers.
Bernanke took gold outta the papers. (course it screwed every homeowner in the country)
I figger Osama dies in August to take the stock market crash outta the papers.
THEN.... gold can reassert itself.
<< <i>I figger Osama dies in August to take the stock market crash outta the papers. >>
Osama is already dead. The CIA has him in a freezer at a remote 7-11, from which he'll be pulled and thawed when the time is right.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The CIA has him in a freezer at a remote 7-11 >>
He musta outranked Zarqawi an got a longer expiration date.
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<< <i>B. buying while its cheap.....er...... >>
Cheap compared to when? A year ago? A month ago?
<< <i>I have a couple of coins in inventory that I might have to a hit on, but by in large I'm hoping that this overheated market is going to calm down some.
Does that sound odd from a dealer? Not really. As a small dealer I often need to get coins from other dealers, and this market few of those guys need to sell anything to me. I also see evidence of the “1980 market” when the real collectors stopped buying and the “market makers” were speculators and less than well informed buyers (that’s PC for “ignorant”) who were looking for alternatives to the stock market.
Last week a “Coin World” article claimed that the wholesale market had disappeared for many early coins. That’s about right, and although that might look healthy it’s not a situation that is going to last. There will be a correction. >>
I know how much you hate Sackies...Bill..............But I *I also see evidence of the “1980 market”*
What happened to all those Chinese and Indians buying metals?
Bottom line the buying was hedge funds and other speculators. They just decided to sell this week to cover emerging market losses.
That not withstanding, I feel gold will rally back and hit new highs by the end of next year. Fed will stop raising rates for fear of collapsing the RE market. Dollar will hit historic lows around the world.
Who knows what will happen but this is a great entry point for people who missed out earlier.
<< <i>Just shows how thin the metals market remains.
What happened to all those Chinese and Indians buying metals?
Bottom line the buying was hedge funds and other speculators. They just decided to sell this week to cover emerging market losses.
That not withstanding, I feel gold will rally back and hit new highs by the end of next year. Fed will stop raising rates for fear of collapsing the RE market. Dollar will hit historic lows around the world. >>
Hard to say. Central banks are in the business of propping up money by fiat, and if they have to actively suppress metals prices and seek to send the world into a recession, so be it. Small price for them to pay to prevent people from thinking their fiat currency isn't a safe haven.
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