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Two 1965 SMS Lincolns. One is $1,900. the other $75. Can You tell them apart?
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There are two 1965 SMS PCGS Lincolns being sold tonight with Teletrade. Neither is CAMEO.
One is currently selling at $1,900.00 and is housed in a PCGS MS68 holder. The other is currently selling at $75. and is holdered PCGS at MS67.
Can you tell them apart?
(No fair peeking at the auctions first!)
Coin One

Coin Two

And, if you're able to spot the MS68 from the MS67, is the spread, of of right now, of $1,800.00+ worth it?
One is currently selling at $1,900.00 and is housed in a PCGS MS68 holder. The other is currently selling at $75. and is holdered PCGS at MS67.
Can you tell them apart?
(No fair peeking at the auctions first!)
Coin One

Coin Two

And, if you're able to spot the MS68 from the MS67, is the spread, of of right now, of $1,800.00+ worth it?
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but no,not for 1800 bucks !
this has been a very informative post.
<< <i>Top one is better. >>
Ditto.......What a difference ONE point makes.......
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Illustrates the complete stupidity of purchasing coins split-graded to the point that most collectors cannot even begin to tell the difference.
Can I look now to see if I'm right?
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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Light chatter on the edge of the shoulder, luster looks good, no carbon spots... a little tough to see any small chatter without in hand, but looks pretty clean...
Comments on #2...
Light chatter in the right obv field, as well as behind the shoulder... I see 2 small ticks on the shoulder of the bust and a tick to the right of the memorial... coin also looks a bit more brilliant than lustrous... could hurt the overall eye appeal in hand, being somewhere in between brilliant and lustrous...
So yes... I see a difference
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1.5 billion 1965 cents total.
gosh those are nice ones though.
at the top of such a huge Population Pyramid, I'm sure it takes an expert eye to say this one's nicer than that.
I'm not such an expert.
given the choice I'd take the top coin and maybe that's the trick question?!?
either way, I'm not in the market for it at any price, whatever the paper tag says.
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So if coin #2 were to hold at $75, I would be willing to go for $85-$90 for coin #1, anymore would be -----foolish.
Or I could go out and buy a couple of unc rolls for a few bucks and probably find a decent 65 or maybe a 66 (if I got lucky) and be really happy with it---plus I would end up with about 99 other coins for the penny jar.
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The truth is, to tell the difference (especially an $1800 difference), you would have to see them in hand I'm sure.
Thanks for the great post!
Editted to add: This is why I also love my pcgs pr69 DCAM Lincoln Set. PR69 = $15, PR70 = $400, Difference to the naked Eye = ?
Still, since I wasn't born in 1965 and don't have a Lincoln Memorial collection, I probably wouldn't go for either
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Coin #2 = small bucks
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These are tough in high grade, but no way for that. If this coin sells, I'll try to make a few myself.
I've made some MS68 1966 and 1967 cents (which are tough BTW) and they brought over $250 each.
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<< <i>I'm with the concensus, but not for the price.
These are tough in high grade, but no way for that. If this coin sells, I'll try to make a few myself.
I've made some MS68 1966 and 1967 cents (which are tough BTW) and they brought over $250 each. >>
There are enough high grade cams for 1966 and 1967 to reduce the value of a 68red in those years.
1965 is a tough year in high grade, and certainly cameo.
the higher price. If you can tell the difference then go with the one you feel is
the better value. If you prefer the better coin but can't or won't ante up the pre-
mium then welcome to the club. It's a much bigger club than those who will pay
the price and herein lies the reason for the spread.
Looks like #1 has more luster...
so I think somebody would pay $1,900 for #2
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It's noteworthy that there is no coin (among 1965 SMS's) currently worth more in either the 1950-Date or the 1959-Date Lincoln w/Varieties proof registry sets.
This is tied with the 66Cam's (probably a tad less $) & the 65DCAM (a whole lot more $) for registry points/value/weight.
"...is the spread, [sic] right now, of $1,800.00+ worth it?..."
It is to people in the registry sets above - I guess
Be interesting to see if it actually sold or failed to meet reserve. Guess we'll know in a little bit.
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<< <i>The first one is much nicer. I would say two points nicer, regardless of the slab tags. It has a little better strike but the degree of marks is what sets it apart. That and the lustre. It makes the difference between a perfectly nice set and a really nice set. Value it as you like though. Some of the price steps have gotten insane. >>
I agree--But then I might be just grading the quality of the photos--
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