Grade Revealed: 1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar -- Photos

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• DickyBetz Posts: 3,825

  April 1, 2006 1:13PM

  I will vote MS64PL. Looks like a nice one too.

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• Oney Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:20PM

  I think 64PL as well. The hit on cheekbone is the only thing keeping it from a 65PL.

  Brian

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• messydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:24PM

  64PL. Good strike, probably moderate mirrors, marks down from the corner of the eye appear to be the gating factor for the grade.

  John
  Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution

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• BigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:24PM

  I say MS 64 Stuart, very nice and solid for the grade too------------BigE

  I'm glad I am a Tree

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• DennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:30PM

  I voted for MS64.
  
  The reeding marks on the cheekbone (prime focal area) just manage to keep it from being a 65.
  The obverse mirrors don't quite look convincing enough to me to be a PL.
  
  That said, I wouldn't be shocked if it was in a 65 or 65PL holder.

  When in doubt, don't.

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• SamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:48PM

  yep, ms64pl These are real hard to photgraph so its not easy to guess from the image, nice coin though

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• dizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 1:48PM

  I'd say MS65PL and an attractive coin.

  ...There's always time for coin collecting.

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• fc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭

  April 1, 2006 2:45PM

  i said 63 PL but i seem to be off a grade from the crowd.

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• Myqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭

  April 1, 2006 2:54PM

  64PL- the hit by the eye limits the grade, as does the cloudy fields on the reverse...... looks nice though...

  My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !

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• mfcobra Posts: 317

  April 1, 2006 3:59PM

  MS61 DMPL Heavy hits on the obverse

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• TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 12:23AM

  Mint State Sixty Four Proof Like!
  
  TorinoCobra71
  
  
  

  

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• TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 12:25AM

  
  
  << <i>I'd say MS65PL and an attractive coin. >>
  
  
  
  Dizz, have you been hittin the Sauce? Look at the ding mark by the Eye!
  
  
  
  MS65?
  
  
  
  TC71
  
  

  

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• Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 1:32AM

  62PL. The reeding on the cheekbone doesn't help. Still, nice coin.
  
  

  Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 2:23AM

  Thanks to the 51 who have participated by voting in the 1897 Morgan Dollar Guess the Grade Poll, and to those others who have also taken the time to post their grading criteria and comments.
  
  I will admit that this one is a bit tricky and unpredictable (and therefore fun), and that I had the benefit of knowing the PCGS grade prior to committing to purchase the coin.
  
  Enjoy!!

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• mfcobra Posts: 317

  April 2, 2006 3:10AM

  So what's the grade???

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 3:20AM

  MFCobra: I'll PM the answer to you privately, if you will please turn on your personal messaging option in your user profile.

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• billboat Posts: 2,260

  April 2, 2006 3:28AM

  
  
  << <i>MFCobra: I'll PM the answer to you privately, if you will please turn on your personal messaging option in your user profile. >>
  
  
  
  I'm in the 64PL crowd-----------so are you going to post the grade or are you waiting for more opinions?

  Curmudgeon in waiting!

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• TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 4:12AM

  
  
  << <i>MFCobra: I'll PM the answer to you privately, if you will please turn on your personal messaging option in your user profile. >>
  
  
  
  Its IS ON!
  
  
  
  TC71
  
  "has over 3,000 PMs in his file......"
  
  

  

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• Numismatics Posts: 1,092

  April 2, 2006 4:32AM

  I would say MS64PL.

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 5:02AM

  MFCobra: I'll post the grade later today to give some others a chance to "Guess the Grade".
  
  However, I'll be pleased to PM it to you privately if you will enable your personal messaging function in your user profile.

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 5:25AM

  63PL

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• JJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 5:28AM

  i said 65pl

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 6:30AM

  One last bump for the Sunday afternoon crowd before posting the grade...

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 7:11AM

  Thanks to all 66 forum members who participated in my latest "Guess the Grade" Poll, and also to those who took the additional time to post their grading criteria and comments.
  
  Believe it or not this coin is an 1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar -- Click for Auction Link
  
  I am pretty certain that it's truly DMPL with 6-8" mirrors because it's in a fresh newly graded PCGS holder using the new stricter DMPL grading standards distinguished by the $1 denomination, as opposed to the older S$1 denomination previously used.
  
  This edition of "Guess the Grade' certainly had a different twist than previous versions. The scanned images posted are from the original auction, and are those that I used to make my purchasing decision. My only advantage was that I already knew the PCGS grade prior to bidding.
  
  Congratulations to MFCobra who was the only poster to get it correct. 80% of the votes were between MS-63 and MS-64 DMPL, with 6 votes for MS-65 PL and above. I would like to solicit MS-65PL or better bids from those 6 voters...
  
  I hope that you had as much fun and enjoyment with this one as I did.
  
  
  
  
  1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar
  

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• dwssws Posts: 2,166

  April 2, 2006 7:15AM

  in thinking of my guess 61 was not even a fleeting thought nice pickup as usual Stuart

  steve
  
  myCCset

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• SamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 7:26AM

  I have a felling you would not sell that coin for ms61pl dollars though....

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 8:19AM

  << I have a felling you would not sell that coin for ms61pl dollars though.... >>
  
  Sam: You are certainly correct with your above quote, as evidenced by the following comment that I made towards the bottom of my latest post.
  
  << I would like to solicit MS-65PL or better bids from those 6 voters... >>

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 8:23AM

  I am STUNNED that the coin only graded 61. thought it was a SOLID 63 shot 4......
  
  TorinoCobra71
  
  

  

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 9:07AM

  TorinoCobra71: Thanks for posting your opinion of my new 1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar, which I intended simply as a fun inexpensive weekend online DMPL Philadelphia Mint Morgan Dollar purchase.

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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• mrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 9:14AM

  Only 1 got it right.
  
  ( based on the picture)

  Coin's for sale/trade.
  
  
  Tom Pilitowski
  US Rare Coin Investments
  800-624-1870

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• TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 9:22AM

  
  
  << <i>TorinoCobra71: Thanks for posting your opinion of my new 1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar, which I intended simply as a fun inexpensive weekend online DMPL Philadelphia Mint Morgan Dollar purchase. >>
  
  
  
  I got and 1882-CC PCGS MS62DMPL that is much more BANGED up than that one!
  
  Im off to check out how much you paid for it.....
  
  TC71
  
  

  

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• Stuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

  April 2, 2006 9:43AM

  TorinoCobra71: Here's the 1897 PCGS MS-61 DMPL Morgan Dollar -- Auction Link to assist you.

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
  "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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