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The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933
From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102
Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled

An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes~',

in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:

Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term 'hoarding" means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.

Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933, except the following:

(a) Such amount of gold as may be required for legitimate and customary use in industry, profession or art within a reasonable time, including gold prior to refining and stocks of gold in reasonable amounts for the usual trade requirements of owners mining and refining such gold.

(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.

(c) Gold coin and bullion earmarked or held in trust for a recognized foreign government or foreign central bank or the Bank for International Settlements.

(d) Gold coin and bullion licensed for the other proper transactions (not involving hoarding) including gold coin and gold bullion imported for the re-export or held pending action on applications for export license.

Section 3. Until otherwise ordered any person becoming the owner of any gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates after April 28, 1933, shall within three days after receipt thereof, deliver the same in the manner prescribed in Section 2; unless such gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates are held for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a),(b) or (c) of Section 2; or unless such gold coin, gold bullion is held for purposes specified in paragraph (d) of Section 2 and the person holding it is, with respect to such gold coin or bullion, a licensee or applicant for license pending action thereon.

Section 4. Upon receipt of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates delivered to it in accordance with Section 2 or 3, the Federal reserve bank or member bank will pay thereof an equivalent amount of any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the Unites States.

Section 5. Member banks shall deliver alt gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates owned or received by them (other than as exempted under the provisions of Section 2) to the Federal reserve banks of there respective districts and receive credit or payment thereof.

Section 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, out of the sum made available to the President by Section 501 of the Act of March 9, 1933, will in all proper cases pay the reasonable costs of transportation of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates delivered to a member bank or Federal reserve bank in accordance with Sections 2, 3, or 5 hereof, including the cost of insurance, protection, and such other incidental costs as may be necessary, upon production of satisfactory evidence of such costs. Voucher forms for this purpose may be procured from Federal reserve banks.

Section 7. In cases where the delivery of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates by the owners thereof within the time set forth above will involve extraordinary hardship or difficulty, the Secretary of the Treasury may, in his discretion, extend the time within which such delivery must be made. Applications for such extensions must be made in writing under oath; addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury and filed with a Federal reserve bank. Each applications must state the date to which the extension is desired, the amount and location of the gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates in respect of which such application is made and the facts showing extension to be necessary to avoid extraordinary hardship or difficulty.

Section 8. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and empowered to issue such further regulations as he may deem necessary to carry the purposes of this order and to issue licenses there under, through such officers or agencies as he may designate, including licenses permitting the Federal reserve banks and member banks of the Federal Reserve System, in return for an equivalent amount of other coin, currency or credit, to deliver, earmark or hold in trust gold coin or bullion to or for persons showing the need for same for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a), (c), and (d) of Section 2 of these regulations.

Section 9. Whoever willfully violates any provision of this Executive Order or these regulation or of any rule, regulation or license issued there under may be fined not more than $10,000, or,if a natural person may be imprisoned for not more than ten years or both; and any officer, director, or agent of any corporation who knowingly participates in any such violation may be punished by a like fine, imprisonment, or both.

This order and these regulations may be modified or revoked at any time.
/s/
Franklin D. Roosevelt
President of the United States of America
April 5, 1933



"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."

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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Where is Nixon when you need him?
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's one reason why gold of special significance to collectors
    (like MS 64/65 saints for example) might have an advantage over pure bullion. Now with PA2, even the 64's have a "bullionish" label attached to them.

    roadrunner
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  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭
    Interesting read

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  • << <i>(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins. >>


    That paragraph is a favorite of scammr who sell US gold coins to non-collectors at inflated rates. They like to point to it and say "This is why you should buy double eagles (or what ever other ciculation gold coin they are selling) rather than bullion coins. Because if there ever is another recall you'll have to turn in your bullion coins, but you'll be able to keep your double eagles."

    What a load of BS. I don't forsee another gold recall, but if there was, what makes them so sure that paragraph or one similar to it will be in the next recall order? The next one could just as easily say all gold, no exceptions.
  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    Would you give up your Gold if they said "turn em in"?


    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    gold is your friend
    I seldom check PM's but do check emails often jason@seated.org

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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins. >>



    Wouldn't this allow the keeping of up to 5 1933 Double Eagles per person?? I'm not sure of minting dates if that changes things...
  • RRRR Posts: 630 ✭✭✭
    Same ole line I've heard for decades.

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  • I don't have any gold that can be proven. I'll never give any up.
  • I ain't given up didly squat.........





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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a load of BS. I don't forsee another gold recall, but if there was, what makes them so sure that paragraph or one similar to it will be in the next recall order? The next one could just as easily say all gold, no exceptions.

    The precedent for confiscation was set in 1933, as well as the precedent to exempt numismatic gold. Today that might be proof gold eagles for example. Precedents aren't necessarily BS and do mean something. I doubt the FEDs will be going after Dukor's $20 Saints nor the 1933 $20 so they can melt them. If that's the case then be prepared to turn in all your 18th, 19th and 20th century gold and silver as well since it's all meltable any ways. In the meantime I'd hedge my bets and not have everything in common bullion. Manley's recovered $500K gold ingot would be one of the first to be confiscated of course.



    roadrunner

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is utter nonsense to assume that something that the government did in 1933 would automatically be copied EXACTLY if the government tried to do something similar at some u nknown point in some hypothetical future.
    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quick - get the tinfoil out image

  • Mmmm Gold. How about a poem. Golden poem


  • How much would it cost the "US" to repurchase all the private gold holdings?

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    Larry
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  • << <i>How much would it cost the "US" to repurchase all the private gold holdings?

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    Hmmm - based on how folks here respond, it won't cost much because there won't be any turned in image



  • Hmmm - based on how folks here respond, it won't cost much because there won't be any turned in image



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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hmmm - based on how folks here respond, it won't cost much because there won't be any turned in image



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    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • The Government (aka big business) already found new more creative ways to grab your "gold" and give it away.

    -Outsourcing industry
    -Importing cheaper labor
    -Tapping into our social security pot that originally was not supposed to be tapped into
    -Funding the rest of the world's problems
    -Government incompetency/waste Fema

    Other than what's in the wifes jewelry box, the government got to my gold before I could buy it. image





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  • PreTurbPreTurb Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭
    Back before 1933, gold and silver were in circulation and available to anyone. I think that the number of people that had some gold stashed away back then was greater than the number (rather, percentage) that have some stashed away now. Gold's recent (1980-2000) poor "performance" as an investment has pretty much kept this generation's regular Joe away from it - with negative reinforcement from stock-pushing money managers.

    My point is - I don't think the government is very concerned about the very low # of doom and gloomer kooks that hold gold today...

    Or... the number of people they would have to "visit" to confiscate gold would be pretty low... Like anything, it can be argued many ways.

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