1856 Three Cent Silver w/ Alien - Grade mine, Post yours or Discuss the naturalness of the toning, y

CarlWohlforth · February 21, 2006 4:14AM

I just picked this up for a client. It gets the Carl seal of approval.

MikeInFL · February 21, 2006 4:20AM

Nice coin, but what's up with the Alien between the first and second I?...Mike

p.s. I'm no authority, but I would guess that that coin was dipped and retoned in an album.

Cladiator · February 21, 2006 4:24AM

I like yours. Here's my only one

AquilaRose · February 21, 2006 4:25AM

The toning looks very natural. The coin has an overall attractive look.

That's a nice one Carl. The points of the stars look fairly strong on the obverse.

What's going on in between the first and second I on the Rev? Is that strikethrough. It reminds me of the alien in the day the earth stood still.

It looks like a strong MS64.

CarlWohlforth · February 21, 2006 8:24AM

The "alien" between the first and second I on the reverse is proof we are not alone in the universe. As such this coin is very rare and worth a healthy premium.

Seriously I think it is a planchet flaw. The strike is better than average and better than the other coins available to me at the time. This is graded MS 64 by PCGS.

I think I can do better with the photos. The color at the rim is a bit lighter than in these photos. There is a hint of light blue in the lower left obverse. Did you ever take a photo and were very happy with it then the next time you looked at it and the coin you didn't like the photo as much anymore? That is what happened here...

kryptonitecomics · February 21, 2006 8:28AM

Nice one Carl...that Alien is really freaky!!!!!!

BillJones · February 21, 2006 8:44AM

You are right, Carl, this is a better strike than you often see on Type II silver three cent piece. Congratuations! It's a nice coin!

For what it's worth I think that the coin was dipped years ago and has now toned to what a dealer I knew from the Boston area used call "original now." There is nothing wrong with that because the surfaces of the piece have not altered.

Here's the coin in my type set. It's well struck and has luster, but has obviiously been dipped white. It's in a PCGS MS-63, I believe, because of the dipping. It was the right coin for me because I didn't want to pay over $1,000 for the type. I got into this one for half the price of an MS-64. We all have our budgets and priorities.

This one is well struck for a Type II Three Cent piece AND the date. Among the all the Type II, it's been my observation that 1858 is the worst struck of the group.

Ronyahski · February 21, 2006 1:20PM

Here's one that looks very similar to yours. An 1857, another Type II, also in 64. Agree with others that 3CS that look like this are an old cleaned and retoned with the blotchy toning. They tend to lack a bit of luster, thus limiting their grade to 64, maybe 65 on a good day for a nice one. On strike, I haven't yet picked up on whether any Type IIs are better than others.

ER · February 21, 2006 1:28PM

Definitely an alien.

TommyType · February 21, 2006 2:40PM

I was befuddled by the "alien" you guys were talking about. Then suddenly, he stepped forward.

That is freaky!

(Find one that looks that nice in an AU-58, and you've got a buyer here).

pontiacinf · February 21, 2006 8:15PM

carl that is deffinately the most coolest 3CS ive ever seen

1jester · February 21, 2006 10:58PM

<< <i> I'm no authority, but I would guess that that coin was dipped and retoned in an album. >>

I agree. It's a beautiful coin though.

1856 Three Cent Silver w/ Alien - Grade mine, Post yours or Discuss the naturalness of the toning, y

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