SGS GRADING COMPANY

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ernie207
ernie207 Posts: 2
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To Keep this short, a member on this site stated that SGS was a fraud. I will be listing auctions that are SGS graded, they are sure doing good for being a fraud.

8370260867
8370262819
8370263929
8370265222
8370266033
8370608421

These are just a few, but the member on this board was not honest in his perception of SGS. They are not slabs that people put coins in, they are a legitmate company.

So to all of the doubting Thomas's out there in cyberspace who can only participate in the conversation in these chat rooms but who have no money to buy, stop spreading lies about a legititmate grading company. RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin.



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  • lordmarcovan
    lordmarcovan Posts: 45,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>SGS GRADING COMPANY >>


    Just say no.

    I wouldn't call them a fraud, but I would call them a service one should avoid.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • braddick
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  • Smittys
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    Ernie you're one funny guy
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  • ER
    ER Posts: 7,345 ✭
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    << <i>To Keep this short, a member on this site stated that SGS was a fraud. I will be listing auctions that are SGS graded, they are sure doing good for being a fraud.

    8370260867
    8370262819
    8370263929
    8370265222
    8370266033
    8370608421

    These are just a few, but the member on this board was not honest in his perception of SGS. They are not slabs that people put coins in, they are a legitmate company.

    So to all of the doubting Thomas's out there in cyberspace who can only participate in the conversation in these chat rooms but who have no money to buy, stop spreading lies about a legititmate grading company. RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin. >>

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  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin.

    Please prove this assertion.
    Early Dollar Set
  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PS:

    Ernie, You do know it is now illegal to annoy any of us via the enternet.

    I'd suggest your thread here is borderline...
  • Cladiator
    Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>So to all of the doubting Thomas's out there in cyberspace who can only participate in the conversation in these chat rooms but who have no money to buy >>

    LOL you obviously don't spend much time on these boards.
  • coinguy1
    coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin. >>

    That is dead wrong. In each case, a PCGS certified coin would bring more, and in some cases, multiples of those prices.

    If you are going to try to make a point/case, you should have your facts and figures straight first.image
  • Tonelover
    Tonelover Posts: 1,554 ✭
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    Ebay bidder bradt228 seems to have a particular affinity for swimming19550's auctions. None of this would have anything to do with you would it? image
  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>To Keep this short, a member on this site stated that SGS was a fraud. I will be listing auctions that are SGS graded, they are sure doing good for being a fraud.

    8370260867
    8370262819
    8370263929
    8370265222
    8370266033
    8370608421

    These are just a few, but the member on this board was not honest in his perception of SGS. They are not slabs that people put coins in, they are a legitmate company.

    So to all of the doubting Thomas's out there in cyberspace who can only participate in the conversation in these chat rooms but who have no money to buy, stop spreading lies about a legititmate grading company. RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin. >>





    You are kidding right??? image
  • MikeInFL
    MikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
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    What a crock of $hit. As Mark pointed out, PCGS coins of these grades would sell for multiples of these prices.

    All this shows is that SGS (and the seller) have scammed users with 2, 31, 164, 2, 12, and 2 feedbacks respectively out of good money by hyping SGS graded coins on e-bay.

    All you've shown is that SGS is helping scam artists do their dirty work.

    You're new e-bay handle wouldn't bee swimming19550, would it Ernie? A second question, if you are in fact swimming19550, how well do you sleep at night knowing you rip people off?...Mike

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    SGS isn't a grading company, it's just a fancy holder.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Bochiman
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    This guy's funny! image

    Stupid Grading Service

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lordmarcovan
    lordmarcovan Posts: 45,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was looking for that popcorn guy, and here's Manorcourtman using him as an avatar. Thanks!

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    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • CarlWohlforth
    CarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
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    Wow. I suspect some people who win your auctions will quit the hobby when they try to sell those coins. You have a lot of nerve to imply that SGS grades to the same standards as PCGS.
    Carl's Coins website w/ links to Carl's auctions
  • 50cents
    50cents Posts: 1,320
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    image is over early today. What does SGS stand for?
  • relayer
    relayer Posts: 10,570 ✭
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    Wow - you sure have good eye for submitting. All those coins are super gem grades.

    I assume SGS holders are tamper resistant and that SGS also backs their grades with a money-back guarantee. Is that true?

    Those sure are some mighty fine deals.

    But how can you afford to give away such expensive coins at such a low price?

    You must be losing a fortune.

    Does it make you mad that the people on eBay are ripping you off so bad?
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  • Bochiman
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    << <i>image is over early today. What does SGS stand for? >>



    Stupid Grading Service
    Sleazy Grading Service
    Suckie Grading Service


    But, someone might think it stands for star grading service. I am more inclined to think along the lines fo the first 3 options.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • Cladiator
    Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Funny how Ernie won't reply to his own thread.
  • Weiss
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    It's so noble that you're letting all your alts and shills win these auctions image
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  • Oldnewbie
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    I found this gem on the SGS website....

    We are now Certifying and Authenticating some different Circulated-type coins.
    These coins, being circulated, would not benefit from being graded, but would
    benefit from being certified. With SGS you know it's Authentic.

    Link to SGS


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  • relayer
    relayer Posts: 10,570 ✭
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    << <i> I will be listing auctions that are SGS graded, they are sure doing good for being a fraud. >>



    You’re correct.

    They are probably one of the best things used by grifters for perpetrating fraud.

    Did you hear about the guy who went to jail for fraud by advertising coin “Investments”?
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  • RW
    RW Posts: 485 ✭
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    I'm a real big fan of the gold tape security seal.
  • DMWJR
    DMWJR Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    heh. Why don't you create a profile Ernie so we can see what your relationship is to SGS?
    Doug
  • bonkrood
    bonkrood Posts: 796 ✭✭✭
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    They are not slabs that people put coins in

    I agree with this line in your rant. image
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  • NumisMe
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    << <i>RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin. >>



    imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage


    You have got to be kidding, or completely out of your gourd! image

    OK, here's one, 8370238606 ... So please show me where I can buy a 2002 Silver Eagle graded ms70 by PCGS for under a hundred bucks, or, just show me one at any price, for that matter!!!!!!!

    Better yet, how about this one 8369338469 ...Now show me where I can find a complete set of 2005 States Quarter Proofs in PCGS PR70 for less than $1500!!!


    GIVE ME A BREAK

    Edited to add: By the way, I may share this joker's name, but obviously not his views, or opinions, or values, or anything else, for that matter.
  • coinguy1
    coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
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    "You can fool some of the people some of the time...." I guess this wasn't one of those times.image
  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    HEY ERNIE...I'LL KEEP MY POST BRIEF, TOO...






























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  • DennisH
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    I have an extensive data set of actual sales prices realized for Morgan dollar VAMs at auctions during 2005 and 2006, including eBay, Heritage, Teletrade, Superior, and Bowers & Merena. Only a few of these prices have been for SGS coins, but it is clear to see what the coin-buying marketplace thinks of them. Here are just a few examples:

    In December 2005 on eBay an SGS MS66 image 1878 7/8TF VAM 38 sold for $270
    In January 2006 in a Heritage auction the same date and VAM in an ANACS MS63 holder sold for $299
    Also in January 2006 on eBay the same date and VAM coin in a PCGS MS63 holder sold for $294

    In November 2005 in a Heritage auction an 1880-S VAM 9 Morgan graded MS67 by NGC sold for $1,093
    In December 2005 on eBay the same date and VAM in an MS67 SGS holder image sold for $178
    In January 2006 in a Heritage auction the same date and VAM in an MS67 NGC holder sold for $1,035

    In November 2005 in a Heritage auction an 1880/9-S VAM 11 graded MS66 by PCGS sold for $633
    In December 2005 on eBay the same date and VAM in an MS67 SGS holder image sold for $76
    Also in December in a Heritage auction the same date and VAM in a PCGS MS66 holder sold for $633
    Also in December on eBay three different MS66 examples graded by SGS image sold for $133, 100 and $70
    Also in December on eBay a PCGS MS63 example sold for $103
    When in doubt, don't.
  • FatMan
    FatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
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    ernie207 is a very funny fellowimage
  • busco69
    busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
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    I wonder why he won't reply in his own thread?Maybe because the statements he makes are false and he knows it.Ernie bring some of your slabs to a coin show and you will get laughed at by every dealer you show them to.
    ''Coin collecting is the only hobby where you can spend all your money and still have some left''
  • WaterSport
    WaterSport Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Gonfunko did this spoof of SGS sometime ago. If you go the time, Read the WHOLE thing.
    Link here.

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • RonMan
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    April 1st came early this year...image
  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    SGS imageimageimage

    I will buy only one SGS slab for inclusion in my slab collection of crummy grading services. I'm still looking for one in my price range - I'll pay $4 for one.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • ROBERTB
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    Dear Ernie,

    I'm afraid I have a copy of your recent medical evaluation. Unfortunately, the diagnosis for all the $hit coming out of your mouth is that you are a horse's a$$, Either you are as dumb as a box of rocks, a fool, a conartist, or a troll, or, a combination thereof.

    SGS =
    suckers grift service
    stupid grift services
    $hitty grift service
    shouldakeptyamoney grift service

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    Everything I write is my opinion.

    Looking for alot of crap.
  • 50cents
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    -****** Graded Slabs-
  • monsterman
    monsterman Posts: 797
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    ernie

    >>>>So to all of the doubting Thomas's out there in cyberspace who can only participate in the conversation in these chat rooms but who have no money to buy, stop spreading lies about a legititmate grading company. RIght now they are averaging more per coin than a PCGS graded coin.


    your so full of it your eyes are brown

    i will tell you that grading is an art not a science...and sgs can put anything they want on coins...they can say they are all 70s...great thats their opinion

    but

    the real illegality is perpetrated that sell those coins AND REFER TO PRICING GUIDES OF OTHER COMPANIES ...WHICH IS BLANTANTLY FRAUDULANT

    AND FURTHER MORE

    WHILE I CANT SAY IF YOUR GUILTY OF FRAUD BECAUSE TO BE GUILTY YOUD OF HAVE TO OF SOLD ONE WHILE REFERING TO OTHER COMPANIES PRICE SHEETS.....I WILL SAY YOUR GUILTY OF ATTEMPTED FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT FRAUD....ive seen your ebay adds....your only defense in a court of law would be to claim ignorance...of which that sir ...is not an excuse

    there is no way you could possibly defend yourself saying you didnt know....all id have to do it supena your cost records...the judge would say....mmmmm you didnt know....with the price you paid!!!...you made how much??? did you think you won the lottery finding these numismatic treasures so cheap???....he will look down his nose and say....havent you learned yet there is no free lunch

    now sue me for slander....i love to take people to the hoop for malicious prosecution

    in closing i will say the people who sell coins in a grade while refering to price guides of other companies in the same grade where as the profits are so far off the charts are 100% commitng a felony

    monsterman

    ps.....im the only one with a bonafide w/c d-mint in ms67 as there is and has been for 20 years only one!!! and i own it..not you
    my goal is to find the monsters and i go where they are but i sometimes miss some.... so if you have any and want to sell IM THE BUYER FOR THEM!!!

    out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
  • Barry
    Barry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
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    Ernie is either a shill or a fool.
  • mozin
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    << <i>Ebay bidder bradt228 seems to have a particular affinity for swimming19550's auctions. None of this would have anything to do with you would it? image >>

    Wow! This bidder has a 2 feedback score and he has bid on 50 lots already, mostly on Ernie's. What a joke.image
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • Bear
    Bear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
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    Let a poor little lamb in here

    with a song in his heart and a dancing

    feet and shazam, its feeding time

    at the zoo. Which all goes to prove, this is

    a tough crowd when it comes to spreading BS.image
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    Camelotimage
  • LucyBop
    LucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Let a poor little lamb in here

    with a song in his heart and a dancing

    feet and shazam, its feeding time

    at the zoo. Which all goes to prove, this is

    a tough crowd when it comes to spreading BS.image >>



    Try swiping a jelly doughnut from a Grizzzzzly Bear........
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  • monsterman
    monsterman Posts: 797
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    yo ernie

    i sold a 88-0 in pcgs 66 ( formerly icg 66 ) for 10,000 how come sgs coins in 67 are only bringing $ 763

    go figure

    btw....the shills are going to get narued.....they can run but they cant hide

    monsterman
    my goal is to find the monsters and i go where they are but i sometimes miss some.... so if you have any and want to sell IM THE BUYER FOR THEM!!!

    out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
  • Gemineye
    Gemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
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  • shmort6552
    shmort6552 Posts: 696
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    I LOVE buying SGS graded coins. Their plastic makes FANTASTIC noise when you smash it!!!image
  • shmort6552
    shmort6552 Posts: 696
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    And a funny thing happened on the way out of the scanner----"my scanner's not very good....." so you'll have to trust me......
    Even says the set graded Proof 70 are deep cameo. Even SGS didn't say that on the label

    What a crock................
  • braddick
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    << <i>Ernie is either a shill or a fool. >>

    No way he could be both?
  • Jcarney
    Jcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
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    Your SGS MS70 SAE has a luster graze on the sun.

    John
    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin


    My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
  • samingeorgia
    samingeorgia Posts: 122
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    Wait...

    WHAT?

    LOL
    How 'bout them DAWGs!
  • nankraut
    nankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
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    Hello Ernie???? Are you there??? Talk to us! image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
  • Coinhusker1
    Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
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    << <i>Ebay bidder bradt228 seems to have a particular affinity for swimming19550's auctions. None of this would have anything to do with you would it? image >>



    This guy is nuts. Shilling his own crappy auctions to try to "prove" his point. How pathetic.

    Those final value fees are going to add up fast!!

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