Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?

majorbigtime · December 16, 2005 11:15PM

In my experience, Ebay is slow to respond to bogus auctions. I thus was surprised to receive the following email:

"
The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:

Item Number - 8364641915

Item Title - 10 coin lot of NGC $20 St. gaudens MS64, 3 Day NR

Our records show that you placed a bid on this item. We removed this item from the Site and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's account has been compromised and used by an unauthorized third party. The seller's privileges to trade on eBay may be temporarily suspended while we investigate this matter further. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able to share further details related to this seller.

If the seller asks you to complete this transaction outside of eBay, we strongly recommend that you do not proceed with the transaction and do not respond to the seller."

Maybe Ebay is not totally inept. I recently had my account hijacked, continually receive bogus secnd chance offers, and lately have been receiving Paypall spoof saying my account will be suspended (so what?) if I don't give my password. Golly gee, I may have just fallen off the turnip truck, but I didn't hit my head on the way down!

It appears fraud is rampant in relation to Ebay. Caveat emptor!!

Speaking of caveat emptor, whadda 'ya think about Hi-dollar moderns (especially the toners)?

poorguy · December 16, 2005 11:26PM

I've also had hijacked accounts bid on my auctions and have been cancelled by eBay. It seems they have been at least trying to get something done.

majorbigtime · December 17, 2005 12:02AM

I've also had hijacked accounts bid on my auctions and have been cancelled by eBay. It seems they have been at least trying to get something done.

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Brandon Kelley - Anaconda Rare Coins

Thanks for the input. It's interesting to note that the scammers impact sellers as well as buyers.

You folks have some damn nice coins to be sure, but the starting price usually is in the atmosphere and downright insane for your modern booooooooner toners IMO! In my recollection, you only had one coin (a Hawaii commem) with multiple Ebay bids in the past several years.

I'm curious. You & Snakes obvoiusly have many auction listings without any bids. Do you really get many legit bids resulting in actual sales or is Ebay primarily a means of advertising for Anaconda?

poorguy · December 17, 2005 12:38AM

<< I've also had hijacked accounts bid on my auctions and have been cancelled by eBay. It seems they have been at least trying to get something done.

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Brandon Kelley - Anaconda Rare Coins

Thanks for the input. It's interesting to note that the scammers impact sellers as well as buyers.

You folks have some damn nice coins to be sure, but the starting price usually is in the atmosphere and downright insane for your modern booooooooner toners IMO! In my recollection, you only had one coin (a Hawaii commem) with multiple Ebay bids in the past several years.

I'm curious. You & Snakes obvoiusly have many auction listings without any bids. Do you really get many legit bids resulting in actual sales or is Ebay primarily a means of advertising for Anaconda? >>

I should have figured a response like this from you. I'm not sure where you've been in the last several months, maybe printing out pictures of modern toners and sneaking them into the bathroom from the way you consistently refer to getting boners for toners.

Your childish remarks must simply be an outlet for the repressed feelings you have for toned proof modern coinage.

If you had any clue as to our eBay activity, you will see that we regularly run NO RESERVE auctions, one of which you bid on recently for a toned Proof Barber half.

The higher priced coins are a good way to advertise when listed as featured auctions as they drive eBay surfers into our store where we can list them for 2c to 5c for 30 days.

nwcs · December 17, 2005 1:01AM

You know what they say about the blind squirrel.

MikeJessie1 · December 17, 2005 1:05AM

I'm not sure if I'm happy or sorry to see that he's not only picking on me. What a JERK!

majorbigtime · December 17, 2005 1:10AM

Hey B, don't get your nose bent out of shape ! You also might consider tempering your words ...."I should have figured a response like this from you. I'm not sure where you've been in the last several months, maybe printing out pictures of modern toners and sneaking them into the bathroom from the way you consistently refer to getting boners for toners. Your childish remarks must simply be an outlet for the repressed feelings you have".

Your comments appear childish and use the "b" word. You also might want to check with the boss about the defamatory aspects of such statements. Like Rocky said "Yo Adrian"!!

Doth protesteeth too much! Anybody who takes these boards too serioulsy has a problem IMO.

Yes, I truly have serious doubts about the bona fides of toned moderns. I suspect most are either AT or were poorly stored. I don't think much of moderns in general, and despise the Hi-dollar toners in particular. For those who like 'em or deal in them, so be it as its a matter of "to each his (or her) own". We live in a caveat emptor world, and I suspect there will be many disappointed bag holders in the world of expensive moderns. Time will tell.

Chill out a bit and have a great holiday season!

FullStepJeffs · December 17, 2005 1:39AM

And now for a totally unscripted, unrehearsed and unrequested acknowledgement...

Brandon,

I, for one, would be one of those individuals who enjoys looking at your coins for the sheer madness of hoping to hit the lottery one day to make you a very significant offer on many of your coins. If you asked me which coins I'd buy from you, it would be a very large list and it's my fantasy, so don't ask. The point of this ramble is to say this... you definitely have some beautiful coins and that alone gives you the right to list them as you see fit.

BTW, if I sent you $100 a day... it would take me 31 years to pay you off for the coins I like... and only a few of them are modern.

Steve

majorbigtime · December 17, 2005 2:05AM

<< 
Brandon,

The point of this ramble is to say this... you definitely have some beautiful coins and that alone gives you the right to list them as you see fit.

>>

I agree wholehartedly--They have some dynamite coins and it's a free Country!!

Myqqy · December 17, 2005 3:16AM

I should have figured a response like this from you. I'm not sure where you've been in the last several months, maybe printing out pictures of modern toners and sneaking them into the bathroom from the way you consistently refer to getting boners for toners.

Russ · December 17, 2005 3:22AM

<< but the starting price usually is in the atmosphere >>

In the atmosphere? Warning! Incoming clue! The atmosphere is all around us, and starts all the way down on the ground.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · December 17, 2005 3:26AM

<< I don't think much of moderns in general, and despise the Hi-dollar toners in particular. >>

Yes, you prefer raggedy pin-holed crap currency purchased in "as-is" auctions.

Russ, NCNE

poorguy · December 17, 2005 3:39AM

<< Hey B, don't get your nose bent out of shape ! You also might consider tempering your words ...."I should have figured a response like this from you. I'm not sure where you've been in the last several months, maybe printing out pictures of modern toners and sneaking them into the bathroom from the way you consistently refer to getting boners for toners. Your childish remarks must simply be an outlet for the repressed feelings you have".

Your comments appear childish and use the "b" word. You also might want to check with the boss about the defamatory aspects of such statements. Like Rocky said "Yo Adrian"!!

Doth protesteeth too much! Anybody who takes these boards too serioulsy has a problem IMO.

Yes, I truly have serious doubts about the bona fides of toned moderns. I suspect most are either AT or were poorly stored. I don't think much of moderns in general, and despise the Hi-dollar toners in particular. For those who like 'em or deal in them, so be it as its a matter of "to each his (or her) own". We live in a caveat emptor world, and I suspect there will be many disappointed bag holders in the world of expensive moderns. Time will tell.

Chill out a bit and have a great holiday season! >>

I couldn't have made the comments I did with any more lightheartedness. I just thought I would communicate with you on your level with words you were comforable with since you like to use them so consistently.

I think I speak for many who post here when I say that I am pretty tired of your childish digs at people here though. I believe that someone who would threaten about defamatory statements would be the one who is taking these boards too seriously. Now go have some eggnog and have a Merry Christmas.

I've met you in person and I have to admit that I enjoyed our conversation and from that I realize that most of your comments are made in jest as you are simply that sort of person.

majorbigtime · December 17, 2005 8:45AM

<< [ I realize that most of your comments are made in jest as you are simply that sort of person. >>

Golly gee, you just hit the nail on the head.

These boards are usually too tame, so I like to stirr it up a bit!

That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. Your statements are causing me considerable mental anguish and reputational loss.

I also occasionally speak with tonuge in cheek and have been known to put my foot in mouth too.!

poorguy · December 17, 2005 10:26AM

That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. Your statements are causing me considerable mental anguish and reputational loss.

Well then let me apologize. I certainly don't want to cause you any mental anguish over such a small issue.

BTW I'm not sure if you have much more reputation to lose here.

jk... you set me up for that one.

cladking · December 17, 2005 10:44AM

<< 

Yes, I truly have serious doubts about the bona fides of toned moderns. I suspect most are either AT or were poorly stored. I don't think much of moderns in general, and despise the Hi-dollar toners in particular. For those who like 'em or deal in them, so be it as its a matter of "to each his (or her) own". We live in a caveat emptor world, and I suspect there will be many disappointed bag holders in the world of expensive moderns. Time will tell.

>>

And here's why words need definitions, and hobbyists need to agree on the meaning of words like "modern".

Twice it's used and at least once in reference to a $20 gold piece that does not exist as a modern.

majorbigtime · December 17, 2005 2:50PM

<< That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. Your statements are causing me considerable mental anguish and reputational loss.

Well then let me apologize. I certainly don't want to cause you any mental anguish over such a small issue.

BTW I'm not sure if you have much more reputation to lose here.

jk... you set me up for that one.

>>

You say "you set me up for that one." but you were the one that had foot in mouth disease.

I didn't bait you. If I had, you would know it as I am a master bater!

Dabigkahuna · December 17, 2005 3:27PM

I still want to know what they say about the blind squirrel?

BlindedByEgo · December 17, 2005 5:24PM

<< I still want to know what they say about the blind squirrel?

>>

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn.

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 12:20AM

<< 

<< I still want to know what they say about the blind squirrel?

>>

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn. >>

Yeah, and even a broken watch is right twice a day!

The disparaging remarks I received in this thread lead to a restless night, thus exacerbating the mental anguish.

ziggy29 · December 18, 2005 1:20AM

<< The disparaging remarks I received in this thread lead to a restless night, thus exacerbating the mental anguish. >>

When other people point things out to you, you have a tendency to take it personally, get defensive and start unloading on them.

To the extent you're getting any "disparaging remarks" I tend to think that's why. When people mention that they don't share your point of view, you have a tendency to belittle them and insult them. That's my view of the situation from the cheap seats, anyway.

[Edit to add: Plus, it's just a message board. There's nothing said on here worth ulcers and sleepless nights.]

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 1:49AM

<< 

<< The disparaging remarks I received in this thread lead to a restless night, thus exacerbating the mental anguish. >>

When other people point things out to you, you have a tendency to take it personally, get defensive and start unloading on them.

To the extent you're getting any "disparaging remarks" I tend to think that's why. When people mention that they don't share your point of view, you have a tendency to belittle them and insult them. That's my view of the situation from the cheap seats, anyway.

>>

This has nothing to do with a disagreement on a point of view. Quite to the contrary, it is an unwarranted, vicious defamatory personal attack! Read the thread for yourself and draw your own conclusion. The purported apology does not impact the irreparable damage done by the initial publication.

Let me ask you a simple question:

Would you like to be called a pervert wanker in a public forum (or in private for that matter)??? Believe me, it is very disconcerning.

poorguy · December 18, 2005 1:51AM

The disparaging remarks I received in this thread lead to a restless night, thus exacerbating the mental anguish.

I slept great even though I slept on a sleeper sofa at my in-laws.

If you can't take yourself what you serve to others here then like you said earlier, it's a free country. Nobody's holding a gun to your head to visit here.

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 2:09AM

<< The disparaging remarks I received in this thread lead to a restless night, thus exacerbating the mental anguish.

If you can't take yourself what you serve to others here then like you said earlier, it's a free country. >>

You may take this lightly young man, I do not.

It is a free country, but free speech doesn't entitile someone to falsely yell "fire" in a crowded theater or to publicly defame another person. Your comments about me are false, malicious, harmful, unconscionable and totally unwarranted . I suggest that you check with the boss before you put your foot-in-mouth again inasmuch as you are speaking individually and on behalf of Anaconda.

I also hereby request that PCGS/Collectors Universe take appropriate action in respect of your future participation in this forum.

ziggy29 · December 18, 2005 2:16AM

<< Let me ask you a simple question:

Would you like to be called a pervert wanker in a public forum (or in private for that matter)??? Believe me, it is very disconcerning. >>

I'm not saying that the specific things said to you were above board or justified. I'm just saying there is a reason why it's *you* who is on the receiving end of these attacks.

poorguy · December 18, 2005 2:17AM

Well I tried to apologize to you earlier and you blew it off. It's not like nearly every post you make gives someone mental anguish. I do not condone yelling "fire" in a theatre, but I never explicitly stated what you were doing in the bathroom. That's your business. What you inferred from my post is what you have a problem with. I don't normally make comments like that but like many here, I'm just plain tired of your rude comments. Anyone can go back and look at what you've posted in the past and see what I'm talking about. If I recall correctly, you are the one repeately tells people to "chill out, it's just an internet forum" after you take a dig at them.

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 2:27AM

<< I never explicitly stated what you were doing in the bathroom.. >>

"....... printing out pictures of modern toners and sneaking them into the bathroom from the way you consistently refer to getting boners for toners."

Sonny, that ain't much of an inference. Your words speak for themselves.

Russ · December 18, 2005 2:46AM

<< That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. >>

You're a wanker.

You're also a whiney little crybaby. You come on talking trash about Poorguy's eBay auctions, then when he hands you your fat ass on a platter you whine and squeal like a little girl.

Russ, NCNE

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 2:59AM

<< 

<< That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. >>

You're a wanker.

You're also a whiney little crybaby. You come on talking trash about Poorguy's eBay auctions, then when he hands you your fat ass on a platter you whine and squeal like a little girl.

Russ, NCNE >>

Just to record this before any further edits.

Myqqy · December 18, 2005 3:02AM

Russ- 1
mbt- 0

Round two?

Russ · December 18, 2005 3:02AM

<< Just to record this before any further edits. >>

Record away. Matter of fact, why don't you go whine to the moderators. That's what you're known for. Starting crap, then when you get back what you deserve, running and tattling like a first grader.

Oh yeah, and here's an edit: The only reason the first one was edited was because I misspelled Poorboy's handle. Don't flatter yourself in to thinking I would edit a post because I'm worried about anything a joke like you is going to do.

Russ, NCNE

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 3:07AM

<< Matter of fact, why don't you go whine to the moderators.

Russ, NCNE[/q

Excellent suggestion.

I hereby request that PCGS/Collectors Universe take appropriate action in respect of your future participation in this forum.

Russ · December 18, 2005 3:13AM

<< I hereby request that PCGS/Collectors Universe take appropriate action in respect of your future participation in this forum. >>

You're a crackup.

Appropriate action would be granting me an award for unwavering bravery in the face of excessive stupidity.

Russ, NCNE

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 3:17AM

<< 

<< I hereby request that PCGS/Collectors Universe take appropriate action in respect of your future participation in this forum. >>

You're a crackup.

Appropriate action would be granting me an award for unwavering bravery in the face of excessive stupidity.

Russ, NCNE >>

From the rules governing these Boards:

"You agree that you will not use or allow others to use your membership in these Forums to:

1. Post or transmit any Materials, or links to any Materials, which are knowingly false and/or defamatory"

'nuff said.

ksteelheader · December 18, 2005 3:22AM

Who is the wanker that started this

assed thread???

Russ · December 18, 2005 3:22AM

Tell me, MajorBigDoofus, how much toilet water did you swallow when the other boys were dunking you in the John back in highschool?

Russ, NCNE

p8nt · December 18, 2005 3:23AM

<< Your statements are causing me considerable mental anguish and reputational loss. >>

You did that yourself. I know for a fact that I dont appreciate <<Thats no bonnnnner tonnnnner>> comments on my threads. I would be willing to bet my left arm that other people that post nicely toned coins do not appreciate those comments either. Call me insecure or whatever, I dont care. But leave your boner toner comments to yourself.

p8nt · December 18, 2005 3:30AM

<< I also hereby request that PCGS/Collectors Universe take appropriate action in respect of your future participation in this forum. >>

If anyone here is guilty and requires punishment, it is you.

tlhoy · December 18, 2005 3:41AM

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 3:56AM

<< Russ- 1
mbt- 0

Round two?

>>

Round Two is reminiscent of Apollo Creed's remark to Rocky Balboa in Rocky II "You're goin' down".

Excerpts from my email to Collectors Universe:

RE: Request to ban posters from Message Boards-URGENT
To: CustomerService@Collectors.com

Your policy states in relevant part:

"You agree that you will not use or allow others to use your membership in these Forums to:

1. Post or transmit any Materials, or links to any Materials, which are knowingly false and/or defamatory"

I have been publicly defamed in a thread on the U.S. Coin Forum in a thread entitled "Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?" and hereby demand that you ban ...[redacted] ."

I'm predicting victory by a knockout (pun intended).

'nuff said

mrearlygold · December 18, 2005 3:59AM

<< 

<< 

<< That doesn't justify calling me a wanker in a public forum IMO. >>

You're a wanker.

You're also a whiney little crybaby. You come on talking trash about Poorguy's eBay auctions, then when he hands you your fat ass on a platter you whine and squeal like a little girl.

Russ, NCNE >>

Just to record this before any further edits. >>

ksteelheader · December 18, 2005 4:03AM

<< 

<< Russ- 1
mbt- 0

Round two?

>>

Round Two is reminiscent of Apollo Creed's remark to Rocky Balboa in Rocky II "You're goin' down".

Excerpts from my email to Collectors Universe:

RE: Request to ban posters from Message Boards-URGENT
To: CustomerService@Collectors.com

Your policy states in relevant part:

"You agree that you will not use or allow others to use your membership in these Forums to:

1. Post or transmit any Materials, or links to any Materials, which are knowingly false and/or defamatory"

I have been publicly defamed in a thread on the U.S. Coin Forum in a thread entitled "Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?" and hereby demand that you ban ...[redacted] ."

I'm predicting victory by a knockout (pun intended).

'nuff said >>

Your mouth always gets your ass in a cramp that you don't know how to get rid of Carey!!!!

tlhoy · December 18, 2005 4:04AM

<< 

<< Russ- 1
mbt- 0

Round two?

>>

Round Two is reminiscent of Apollo Creed's remark to Rocky Balboa in Rocky II "You're goin' down".

Excerpts from my email to Collectors Universe:

RE: Request to ban posters from Message Boards-URGENT
To: CustomerService@Collectors.com

Your policy states in relevant part:

"You agree that you will not use or allow others to use your membership in these Forums to:

1. Post or transmit any Materials, or links to any Materials, which are knowingly false and/or defamatory"

I have been publicly defamed in a thread on the U.S. Coin Forum in a thread entitled "Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?" and hereby demand that you ban ...[redacted] ."

I'm predicting victory by a knockout (pun intended).

'nuff said >>

Russ · December 18, 2005 4:06AM

<< Excerpts from my email to Collectors Universe:

RE: Request to ban posters from Message Boards-URGENT
To: CustomerService@Collectors.com

Your policy states in relevant part:

"You agree that you will not use or allow others to use your membership in these Forums to:

1. Post or transmit any Materials, or links to any Materials, which are knowingly false and/or defamatory"

I have been publicly defamed in a thread on the U.S. Coin Forum in a thread entitled "Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?" and hereby demand that you ban ...[redacted] ."

I'm predicting victory by a knockout (pun intended). >>

You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder. It's a good thing human beings are blessed with an autonomic nervous system, because you are too stupid to breath.

Russ, NCNE

kiyote · December 18, 2005 4:07AM

Anyone that loses sleep over something that happens in this forum has problems far beyond anything happening in this forum..

FatMan · December 18, 2005 4:10AM

Weekend Comedy! I love this place.

ksteelheader · December 18, 2005 4:17AM

<< Weekend Comedy! I love this place.

>>

Carey is the King of Weekend Clowns™!!!

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 4:18AM

<< Weekend Comedy! I love this place.

>>

Yeah, like the discourse at the beginning of the thread:

[ I realize that most of your comments are made in jest as you are simply that sort of person. >>

Golly gee, you just hit the nail on the head.

These boards are usually too tame, so I like to stirr it up a bit!

Cherwood · December 18, 2005 4:22AM

<< 

<< Weekend Comedy! I love this place.

>>

Yeah, like the discourse at the beginning of the thread:

[ I realize that most of your comments are made in jest as you are simply that sort of person. >>

Golly gee, you just hit the nail on the head.

These boards are usually too tame, so I like to stirr it up a bit! >>

Stirring up a bit and trying to get someone banned are two entirely different things.

Myqqy · December 18, 2005 4:28AM

The irony of mbt trying to get people banned for being meanies is just way too much.

majorbigtime · December 18, 2005 4:29AM

<< 
Stirring up a bit and trying to get someone banned are two entirely different things. >>

As stated earlier in this thread "I also occasionally speak with tonuge in cheek!" so maybe I was kidding.

Then again, those who cross the line should face the consequences.

Hmmmmmm we have a conundrum!

Ebay cops actually busted a scam!! Modern toner$?

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