After all the milk spotting problems...who's going to continue slabbing and collecting SAE's in '06

CoinHusker · December 15, 2005 10:04PM

I'm not. I'm through. After 40% of my 1986-2005 PCGS MS69 set developed milk spots, in the slabs, I've had it. To me, it's throwing money down the drain.

Starting that set was a newbie mistake but I've learned my lesson.

INXS · December 15, 2005 10:16PM

I wish there was some way to determine if there was a common denominator to the SAE's that developed the milky spots. I guess the chances of that happening over a 20 year period are close to nill. I have mine proof and MS in a Dansco and I have no problem so far with them.

CoinHusker · December 15, 2005 10:21PM

<< <i>I wish there was some way to determine if there was a common denominator to the SAE's that developed the milky spots. >>

I know there was talk of studies going on but I haven't heard anything on how that is progressing.

Heywood · December 15, 2005 10:22PM

I have MS in dansco, and PR in OGP.

I never really wanted to slab them. ( But I have been slabbing PRDCAM commems)

No Milk spots on the proofs, some toning on the MS.

I have been giving the PRs as Gifts for new borns of friends and family.

Coinhusker1 · December 15, 2005 10:36PM

Were your coins dipped in Acetone to stabilize them before slabbing? If so, did they still develop milk spots?

CoinHusker · December 15, 2005 11:00PM

<< <i>Were your coins dipped in Acetone to stabilize them before slabbing? If so, did they still develop milk spots? >>

I don't know, I bought them yearly from a local dealer.

Topcoin · December 16, 2005 12:12AM

PCGS has had problems with silver eagles in there slabs developing milk spots. NGC does not seem to have that problem as my set is in NGC slabs. I can't seem to find out why PCGS slabs have this problem.

garsmith · December 16, 2005 12:20AM

I've never had problems with my proofs; they are in OGP and my MS eagles are all in unopened rolls. They could have mlk spots, I don't know.

StuckOnSilver · December 16, 2005 12:26AM

i don't think i'll be collecting SAE anymore either but it has nothing to do with milkspots. they are nice looking coins but very few will ever appreciate higher than their melt value.

MrKelso · December 16, 2005 6:29AM

I have a MS in an Intercept Shield album Complete. So far over the years the 1993 and the 1991 OBV's each developed milk spots, Since i have several mint rolls of each year to date, i am not to upset about this minor problem.
I also have a complete set of Proofs in OGP and all are Perfect condition with no spots or traces of any thing developing.

My brother has a set where the 92 and the 94 developed Milk spots.

BeeMan · December 16, 2005 6:35AM

I have been buying uncirculated and proof versions of every year since they started making them. So far none of mine have developed any spots. I keep the proofs in their original mint holders and the unc's in Intercept 2x2 holders.

pf70collector · December 16, 2005 6:46AM

I will be collecting these til the end of the series, hopefully that will be soon.
I have a completed set of NGC PF 70 ASE except 95W and 1993 in 69.
And two complete sets of NGC MS 69.
And about 10 different year mint rolls. Just purchased a 2006 ASE Roll this Tuesday.

BECOKA · December 16, 2005 7:22AM

I have also given up.

Both PCGS and NGC have major issues. I have returned numerous amounts to PCGS for refund or spot removal. It is just not worth the trouble. On the other hand, If they don't develop spots in the first year in the slab then they probably won't develop later. Also has anyone seen spotting on the first strike proofs? I have seen about 100 so far and so far there is no signs of spotting unlike the 2004's where 100% developed spots includingthe PR70's.

I breifly discussed this with David Hall in an e-mail and so far there is little understanding and it is an ongoing investigation as it is costing PCGS $$$ in replacement costs.

MrKelso · December 16, 2005 3:45PM

I won't buy any more certified SAE's or GAE's but i will buy A few rolls each year and a few proofs and a set of Gold in ogp

michael · December 16, 2005 4:21PM

After all the milk spotting problems...who's going to continue slabbing and collecting SAE's in '06 and beyond?

most all of the time the milk spotting is caused by dipping before submitting

let the buyer beware

KentuckyJ · December 16, 2005 5:24PM

One for sale now at DLRC.

KJ

TorinoCobra71 · December 16, 2005 7:43PM

I get at least 5-10 SAEs every year. slab them and give them to friends and family for b-day and holiday gifts........

TorinoCobra71

fcloud · December 16, 2005 10:57PM

I purchase the proofs every year from the mint and leave them in the OGP. I have no problems of any kind on any of the coins.

BigD5 · December 16, 2005 11:07PM

Paying anything over bullion values for these seems like a waste of money to me, so the "spotting" problem wouldn't have an effect on how I buy these.

CoinHusker · December 16, 2005 11:37PM

<< <i>... On the other hand, If they don't develop spots in the first year in the slab then they probably won't develop later. >>

I had a different experience. Some of mine developed spots long after being slabbed. Like my '91 & '95 nearly 10 years later.

CoinHusker · December 16, 2005 11:41PM

Is there any reference to the spots in the description.? I didn't see one.

KentuckyJ · December 17, 2005 1:21AM

> Is there any reference to the spots in the description.

No. I posted one pic. The DLRC inventory shows x3 70's, each with minor spotting evident in the pics.

KJ

CoinHusker · January 6, 2006 9:54PM

Just my 2 cents, but until we learn why slabbed eagles are spotting so frequently, I'm staying far, far away from that 20 year bad habit.

After all the milk spotting problems...who's going to continue slabbing and collecting SAE's in '06

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