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Ouch! I got clocked.... Seated Halves grades in

bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180
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I know it's alway a crapshoot with these older coins as to how the TPG's are going to view them as far as originality/cleaning/altering, but PCGS sure seems rough on grading of them right now. No other comments beyond that. I'll take my azz-kicking and not whine about it. If anyone has a submission planned for NGC I'd like to piggyback a couple of seated halves and see if I can't get them reholdered again before selling the coins. If not, they go back to ANACS or they will be for sale if anyone wants a '45-O or '56-O. It's not worth cracking the other 3 out, so they will just stay as is.

1 02554293 1844 50C USA AU50(Ex - ANACS AU53)
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2 02554294 1845-O 50C USA Altered Surfaces(Ex - ANACS AU58)
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3 02554295 1856-O 50C USA Altered Surfaces(Ex - ANACS AU58)
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4 02554296 1860-O 50C USA AU55(Ex - ANACS AU58)
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5 02554297 1877-S 50C USA AU58(Ex - ANACS MS61)
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Comments

  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    Looks like ANACS got clocked. You were only the delivery boy. When you get them back be sure to take a hard look at them and try to see why PCGS awareded the dreaded BB's.
  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Ouch.

    On another note, I love this coin:

    image

    I would have paid PCGS money for it in ANACS plastic in a heartbeat.
    Mr. Thigpen

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  • bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180


    << <i>Looks like ANACS got clocked. You were only the delivery boy. When you get them back be sure to take a hard look at them and try to see why PCGS awareded the dreaded BB's. >>



    I don't have a problem with the BB's. I knew those would be a quest.
  • golddustingolddustin Posts: 838 ✭✭
    Boy-o-boy, that's gotta hurt on the '77 image That coin looks pretty well struck-up, and if it got by the ever-dangerous "cleaned/altered surfaces" category, you would think it would be at least a 60. I notice a surface scratch on the obverse field, and luster isn't the greatest, but c'mon, it looks better than AU!!
    I guess, as many folks have mentioned over the years, todays AU58 could be next month's MS62...in those ranges there is a good bit of wiggle room, evidently!image
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Ouch -- looks like a reminder that you need to be VERY sure of a coin's originality and authenticity before submitting it as a crackout...
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    when in doubt.... send them in still holdered. you would have taken MUCH less of a beating.
  • bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180


    << <i>when in doubt.... send them in still holdered. you would have taken MUCH less of a beating. >>



    That would have been no fun. I just thought I would post the coins and the grades and let everyone see them. Here's my views of what I thought of the coins....

    1844 --> Probably cleaned with soap & water at some time. Easily could have been BB'd. Grade could have been anything from 50-55. I see it more as a 53+.
    1845-O --> Questionable chocolate coloring. Otherwise 58. A gamble.
    1856-O --> Easily a 58 if it got holdered. Probably retoning after some cleaning some time ago. Pretty half if the graders would have amused me. image
    1860-O --> Nothing special. Didn't pay much. 55 or 58 reasonable.
    1877-S --> Reverse is 63 easy. Obverse could have been seen many different ways as to whether the head & leg abrasions were wear or rubs. Was hoping PCGS would take the reverse into account and give the coin a break. They didn't.

    The three go into my registry set as is.
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    That is why I don't like cracking them out. Some people don't even get the coins back into the same holder. Sometimes I'll try a cross, if it doesn't work I don't have to send the coin back anywhere.
    Carl's Coins website w/ links to Carl's auctions
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Done both. Greatest loss-10/10 BB. Have 11 cracked in house now. I do it instead of going to Atlantic City.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just cracked a bunch for a submission....PCGS has been brutal as of late....lets hope it goes better than yours. image

    Bummer but keep your chin up. I got hammered the other day too.

    J

    siliconvalleycoins.com

  • bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180


    << <i>I just cracked a bunch for a submission....PCGS has been brutal as of late....lets hope it goes better than yours. image

    Bummer but keep your chin up. I got hammered the other day too.

    J >>



    Glue'em back up. image

  • lazeroolazeroo Posts: 296
    the 1877-s is wb-103 and looks to be an R-6 coin.pretty rare in that grade.
    you need to send that baby back to anac.s and beg for the same grade, image
    may the force be with you.



    rob.

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