How are toned coins priced? Bought? Is there a rule?

p8nt · November 24, 2005 5:35AM

I have some toned coins I want to sell but have no idea how much they are worth. Is there a general rule of thumb? Is it all aesthetics? How do you figure out how much to sell it for?

coppercoins · November 24, 2005 5:59AM

Put a number on one. If it sells immediately, you sold for too little. If it doesn't sell, your number is too high.

There is no hard and fast rule about selling toned coins. The people who will pay a premium for them judge their price one coin at a time and there is no real rhyme or reason to it. I have seen ugly lower grade coins sell for moon money while higher grade more attractive coins sell for next to nothing.

dizzyfoxx · November 24, 2005 6:01AM

I don't think they're worth anymore than dipped white examples. Just PM me with a list and I'll reluctantly take them off your hands.

PerryHall · November 24, 2005 6:03AM

Put them in an auction and you'll find out what they are worth.

wjd283 · November 24, 2005 6:04AM

Put one on ebay starting at .99 and see where it goes.

sTONER · November 24, 2005 6:05AM

offer them BST fairly priced , thats what this place is supposed to be all about

p8nt · November 24, 2005 6:10AM

<< offer them BST fairly priced >>

I plan on doing that... but one problem...

What is fairly priced? Thats the whole concern...

airplanenut · November 24, 2005 6:13AM

It really depends on what the coin is--price is correlated with the color. Premiums usually become more obvious as you see more items sell, IMO... of course, there's no hard and fast rule.

Jeremy

Myqqy · November 24, 2005 6:47AM

What is fairly priced? Thats the whole concern...

Refer back to the advice offered by coppercoins:

Put a number on one. If it sells immediately, you sold for too little. If it doesn't sell, your number is too high.

Either that, or just throw some on a no reserve auction, and you'll begin to see what brings money, and what doesn't...

Hadleydog · November 24, 2005 7:28AM

Eye appeal, eye appeal and eye appeal.
Go take a look at some of the sights that specialize in toners, and you will get an idea of what brings strong money and what doesn't.

nwcs · November 24, 2005 8:01AM

No hard and fast rules but most toned coins get slotted into general ranges with the ranges and unpredictability going higher the more outstanding the coin is in addition to the color.

keets · November 24, 2005 8:02AM

if you aren't a capable photographer who knows how to realistically portray the coin in a high resolution picture, you're fighting an uphill battle. do a search at the BST to see some outrageously priced coins which will often have dialogue which sounds close to the coin is a monster and the picture doesn't do it justice or the coin looks much better than the picture. absent a good picture from a known and/or trusted seller it's really a crap shoot. to be sure, if you sell to a dealer you can probably expect close to no premium "for color" even if they're a dealer who sells in the market.

perhaps the best route is to consign to a well known eBay seller who can portray the coin in a picture which will bring the best money for you. he'll more than like;y also have a core of buyers that check his listings regularly, so if it's nice, it'll sell easily for a good price.

nwcs · November 24, 2005 8:05AM

<< to be sure, if you sell to a dealer you can probably expect close to no premium "for color" even if they're a dealer who sells in the market. >>

VERY TRUE! You have to be willing to stick to your guns when you sell a coin with color to a dealer.

p8nt · November 24, 2005 8:13AM

Do you guys think this is okay as far as a picture goes? Ive sold some toned stuff before and have plenty experience with Ebay.. but as fas ar selling on the BST I dont know how to come up with a price.

majorbigtime · November 24, 2005 8:14AM

Some folks ask big buck$ for bounner toners!

FatMan · November 24, 2005 8:29AM

<< Some folks ask big buck$ for bounner toners! >>

Here's the formula they use. Start with an outrageous price, then double it.

LeeG · November 24, 2005 8:34AM

Do a search of Prices Realized at Heritage and Teletrade Auctions for the series you want to sell. That will give a real good Starting Point to price your coin. Of course, no "Overpricing" is allowed on the B/S/T.

TonedCoinTrader · November 24, 2005 8:38AM

Personally I don't think that commem has much "premium" color but it certainly is a nice original coin and may sell for a small percentage above a similar "white" coin. On the other hand It may sell for less as it may seem unattractive looking to some bidders.

Scott

p8nt · November 24, 2005 8:43AM

<< Personally I don't think that commem has much "premium" color but it certainly is a nice original coin and may sell for a small percentage above a similar "white" coin. On the other hand It may sell for less as it may seem unattractive looking to some bidders. >>

What about something like this? NGC MS65.

TonedCoinTrader · November 24, 2005 9:02AM

Nice Rainbow bands, should fetch a small premium.

BlindedByEgo · November 24, 2005 9:25AM

<< Do a search of Prices Realized at Heritage and Teletrade Auctions for the series you want to sell. That will give a real good Starting Point to price your coin. Of course, no "Overpricing" is allowed on the B/S/T.

>>

Great idea, that. Correlate price realized to similar grade, toned vs. white. Takes some time, but should get you where you want to go.

Myqqy · November 24, 2005 9:41AM

no "Overpricing" is allowed on the B/S/T.

Somebody better tell this to the folks on the BST board- I see a lot of retail+ pricing when I browse there.....

TomB · November 24, 2005 10:16AM

This may read quite harsh but it is not meant as such: If these are your coins, and you already know how much you paid for them, when you bought them and from whom, yet you still don't know what they are worth then there is no one here who can help you answer that question. Also, if those parameters are largely true, then I doubt you truly have coins that are worthy of any meaningful premium.

p8nt · November 24, 2005 10:23AM

<< This may read quite harsh but it is not meant as such: If these are your coins, and you already know how much you paid for them, when you bought them and from whom, yet you still don't know what they are worth then there is no one here who can help you answer that question. Also, if those parameters are largely true, then I doubt you truly have coins that are worthy of any meaningful premium. >>

I know what they are worth to me. It does not mean they are not worth more or less to someone else. I know nothing is huge premiums.. I dont have the money to go into huge $700 toners or anything. I am just looking to get the most out of them while still giving someone else a good deal and a coin they would hopefully like.

michael · November 25, 2005 4:59AM

show me a toned coin that is within my speciality and i will tell you

this is an extremely hard question to answer even guesstimate without more information

grip · November 25, 2005 6:08AM

If you have toners like this, you will get a large premium.

p8nt · November 25, 2005 6:11AM

Thats what I dont get. Why can something so subtle like the Washington get a huge premium, while my Washington with full rainbow spectrum only has a little premium?

Does it have to do with how much of the coin is covered? I dont get it..

tcmitssr · November 25, 2005 6:17AM

Last year, I won a Heritage auction for a San Diego, 1936-D, in PCGS MS 66 that was toned on both sides. Candidly, I would say it is 75% more attractive than the one pictured. It has almost every color imaginable thoughout the coin.

My final price, with vig added, at hammer and after beating out four other buyers, was $575.00.

I hope this helps you in figuring out a price.

grip · November 25, 2005 6:53AM

<< Thats what I dont get. Why can something so subtle like the Washington get a huge premium, while my Washington with full rainbow spectrum only has a little premium?

Does it have to do with how much of the coin is covered? I dont get it.. >>

Yes it matters on how much the coin is covered,and also the colors.Most
important for me is the uniform colors on the coin.Not splotchy,nice and even.

I just picked this coin at random.Here's another with different type of toning.

nwcs · November 25, 2005 6:54AM

One other fact is the vibrancy of the luster. If the luster's vibrancy makes the color pop off the surface of the coin, it's worth a lot more.

Hadleydog · November 25, 2005 7:30AM

Hi p8nt, You are not gonna learn how to price toners from this thread. It takes time and the viewing of literally thousands of coins........and your gonna pay some dues (mistakes) along the way.
Your Washington has a small sliver of beautiful color, however the rest of the obverse has a 'dirty' look to it. It's the kind of coin that makes me go 'nice color band, shame about the rest'. You might find someone who would pay a small premium for it. The other Washington's posted have full color coverage and appear to have a nice 'pop' to the color from the luster.........and no major distractions.
If your coins' obverse was completely covered in the color it does have, it would be a moose.

How are toned coins priced? Bought? Is there a rule?

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