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Just received some EZ-est & 'MS70' in the mail - advice?
golddustin
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I have followed several threads about dipping using EZ-est, but I remember a few mentioning the MS70 being better in certain cases. After reading the few instructions provided, I hesitate to use the MS70....can anybody relate some experiences with it? Do you use it as directed on bottle, or have you figured out your own special technique? Dare I use it on old copper coins, even tho it claims that it works fine ( and safely ) on copper?
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NEVER use MS70 on copper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Use MS70 to take crud off of BU Nickel/silver/gold.
Use the acid to remove toning.
Russ, NCNE
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And I always thought we disagreed on this topic. It is nice to see you have come around to the correct conclusion concerning this matter.
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Return it for a refund, and then use the money to buy a coin
MS70 is a heavy-duty degergent plus a harsh alkali like amonia: it will instantly remove all toning from a silver or nickel coin, taking it down to bare metal. If the coin is a modern silver or nickel and if you use minimal exposure to the MS70, you can restore a sound coin to like-new condition and not effect luster one bit. I always use a Q-tip and work with 1:1 to 1:5 dilution (tap water) depending on how heavy duty I want the cleaning to be.
MS70 is difficult to rinse off so I use a rubber coated wire basket under running tap water for 5 to 10 minutes, then a rinse in distilled water, then in 70% alcohol, then 90% alcohol before drying between two white soft linen towels.
EZest is an acid dip I have never used but I know one has to follow-up with a mild alkaline dip to neutralize any residual acid before using either acetone or alcohol for spot-free drying.
Bottom line, NEVER dip an attractive older coin until you know enough to make that decision and only when you have nothing to lose. Realize that a like-new surface can make hairlines and minor dings more visible. Practice with cheap modern nickel coins to get the feel. For example, don't rub with the q-tip, just gently move it around over the entire surface and change finger positions mid-way so you don't leave a tell-tale original moon at the rim. And if in doubt, DON'T!!
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The ezest, i have done, but only on a few low dollar morgans that were either cruddy/nasty toned or AT....I dont like it....i would rather use the MS70..imho
I have never used MS70, and I intended only to use it on coins that have been rendered pretty much worthless by environmental damage or are crud-covered, at least until I become familiar with the effects. Why do some folks feel it is OK for NCS to "conserve" coins, but are shocked..SHOCKED!! when collectors try to do the same thing? BTW - I have sent in some MS silver coins for grading that I had dipped, and they did come back with pretty decent grades - better than they would have if sent the way they were prior to the dip, IMO.
For copper, I generally do not do anything, but if there is gunk on the surface, I will do the long term baking soda, vinegar, olive oil procedure and that seems to produce a pretty decent, original appearing surface.
cointagious - I got a great laugh from your response - I guess I shouldn't believe the bottle when it says it works wonderfully on all metals, including copper!
Thanks Guys!! Chuck
every treasure on Earth
to be young at heart?
And as rich as you are,
it's much better by far,
to be young at heart!
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Frankly, it does wonders for haze and even milkspots. Though some milkspots are apparently meant to last the life of the coin.
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I have had good success with MS70 on modern clad coins. I would not use it on circulated coins or coins lower than AU.
I recommend trying it on some MS pocket change and some AU silver dimes to see how it works and if you like it.
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