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1798 Bust dollar....guess the grade.*Grade Revealed*

fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This coin is dove grey, not red in color. The red is due to my imaging skills.image
I had some blind luck tonight and bought this coin locally less than an hour ago. Please give your grade opinion.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VG 8.May be downgraded due to the scratch.
    Al
  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744 ✭
    Pretty good call Al. I would think Fine but agree there were probably points deducted for the scratch.

    I like the color - looks very original. Ms Liberty sure is wide-eyed! Looks a little spooked, which may be appropriate around Halloween time.

    Edited to say - got a better look at the reverse letters - VG tops.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you guys know your Bust Dollars. I do not know them too well, but from what I have read in the Red Book and Second Edition of Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection, indications are that this would be a VG-8. I personally find the scratch in the reverse quite distracting and am surprised it made it in a PCGS holder at all because of DAMAGE, but I suppose it's rarity gave it preferential consideration.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    good eye appeal and decent surfaces

    honest wear

    overall strong vg with claims to fine
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    I would grade your coin a VG8,no way a fine.

    It looks like there is a plugged hole in it at,

    OBV,lower right of E in LIBERTY,

    REV,smack in the middle of the tail feathers,

    Can somebode else see what i'm seeing?

    What type of slab is it in?

    Still a imagecoin.

    Brian
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see it, too... Weight adjustment?

    PCGS holder? Wow. I wouldn't be surprised if it was graded VG-8, but I would have second thoughts buying it personally at that... The rev. scratch is just too distracting.

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    VG 10
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  • cartwheelcartwheel Posts: 845 ✭
    VG8; please send to me immediately for closer evaluation!
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  • MercMerc Posts: 1,646 ✭✭
    VG 8 details. Possible plug by the E. It could just be some marks from circulation.
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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    VG10
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
    Net VG10.

    Ray
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    VG8, but not too attractive in my opinion.

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I was going to say F, but I have a hard time with draped.
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Nice VG
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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    At best VG8 with a scratch image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VG8

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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    G6

    I see what looks like the hole. Obv and Rev
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  • 13PacesEast13PacesEast Posts: 712 ✭
    MC
    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VG-8.

    I wish that the scratch was not there, but given the grade it's a minor point.

    The big plus is that the coin has not been cleaned.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The grade is G06.

    ER nailed the grade! Some others did guess with the generic "good" grade were also correct.

    I believe who ever submitted the coin got screwed on the grade. It looks around VG10 to me.

    No plug under the "E" in Liberty just a couple of scratches.

    I was thrilled to buy this coin for $780. I believe that was VG money. image
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    I guess most of us just suck at grading....image

    Actually, PCGS loves to undergrade a lot.

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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    Glad I was wrong about the plug.Sorry I didn't notice that it was in a PCGS slab.

    Still a imagecoin.


    Brian
    NUMO
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For comparison, here's a PCGS VG-10. (Every time I photograph this coin, I'm shocked by the scratches. They are nearly invisible on the coin in hand. Weird).


    Dang, I like this coin design, in whatever grade!

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dang, I like this coin design, in whatever grade! >>


    I totally agree!!image




    When collecting lower grade draped bust coinage, you can't let a few scratches bother you.

    That's a beautiful VG10, Tommy Type and it looks higher grade than mine.

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