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Should I dismember my 1951, '52 proof sets?

I've come into possession of two fantastic proof sets ('51, '52) in the original cardboard containers. Opening them was a total rush...gently unfolding the tissue inside the boxes, then gingerly lifting the sweet booty in their pristeen little cellophane wrapers (which I was advised will fall apart if handled roughly at all). I must say, these proof coins are something! The sensation of peeking through these proof sets was exhilarating to me and quite different than perusing any mint-state examples.
My question: Having obtained these at a reasonable price, how would I go about determing whether it would be worthwhile breaking up the set? I can't grade proof coins at all, regardless of the series. I'm impressed by the prices of the Franklin and Washington in high-grade proof condition, but how would I evaluate them? On the surface this does not appear to be a task for a local dealer. Nor does it seem sensible to arbitrarily break them up and send to PCGS?
Please help.
Guy
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Can you provide any images?
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Yes, we need pics- especially of the franklins...... image
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  • Close the lid on them boxes and put them away. You know what they are and can admire then as you like but is sounds like you want to have them graded by a professional. I'd probably send the entire group in to be certified and keep all of the original packaging.
  • Don't do it..no need to certify - you know what they are!!!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've come into possession of two fantastic proof sets ('51, '52) in the original cardboard containers. Opening them was a total rush...gently unfolding the tissue inside the boxes, then gingerly lifting the sweet booty in their pristeen little cellophane wrapers (which I was advised will fall apart if handled roughly at all). I must say, these proof coins are something! The sensation of peeking through these proof sets was exhilarating to me and quite different than perusing any mint-state examples. >>



    You should write romance novels. image

    Whether or not you should break them up depends on the grades of the coins - particularly the Franklin Half Dollars. The 1950 and 1951 proof Frankies in gem or better bring strong money. However, there's a reason they bring strong money. They're tough. Most in these sets don't grade better than PR64 due to hairlining.

    Russ, NCNE
  • I agree with Russ about the romance novel thing image
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can you provide any images? >>



    I can't remove them to photograph without damaging the cellophane. You know how these are--sealed on one end and stapled closed on the other.
    Bill, maybe I can tote them over to the next show in New Haven, if you're going.
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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    Keep them in the box too many of these sets have been broken up. Make sure they're not around the staple though.
  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    double post!image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only reason to put these coins in slabs would be if they are cameo Proofs. Otherwise it's not worth the effort IMO.

    I think that original sets like this will be historically important as the years go by. I'd keep the set intact, unless you have a two sided cameo in the set that would sell for a lot of money as a single. Even then you might get a premium from a well-versed buyer.
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  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Keep them original. In the coming years they will definitely be worth a premium. -dan


    Edited for spelling.
  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    Why would you even consider breaking up those sets? Sets like that don't appear every day. Get some plastic sandwich bags, put them in them, put away somewhere where you can go look at them if you want or sell them to someone that appreciates them as they are. Once opened and separated they would probably bring more than the set complete but then the set is lost forever. Unless you really need the money that bad, just put them away for tomorrow.
    Carl
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I want to follow up carl's comment with one caveat.

    Do NOT GET PLASTIC "SANDWICH" BAGS WITHIN 10 FEET OF THESE COINS.

    Or, if you must, go right ahead - and to really make sure they're safely tucked away, pound the sandwich bags vigourously with hammer into the surfaces of each piece.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Don;t break these up.

    Why grade them??? Unless they come out very very high grade PF67 or better, they are not worth getting graded.

    Don't even take the staples out.

    I've bought some 51 and 52 sets in capital plastic and graded those coins high grade, but in the original sets, leave them alone.

    They also most likely have hairlines. You'll never know until you get them out, then it's too late.


    The only exception might be if you have an obvious double sided cameo coin. That might be worth grading.
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  • I think we are in agreement here. Cameo contrast on both sides is hard to find on Jefferson nickels those years, other denominations too. Original sets are getting scarcer and scarcer.
  • I've never had a proof set I would'nt break up.

    If I had those dates,I'd keep them the way they are.


  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    What would cause hairlining in these coins, if they've never been anywhere but the die and the cellophane??
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Trust me...and ask others, the cellophane hairlines the coins.

    Just because you have fresh paper doesn't mean no hairlines!

    The early proof coins, particularly the halves are notorious for hairlines.

    The halves in high grade are where the $$$ are.
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  • In the original packaging and with a shot at gem grade--these coins are worth a very significant premium if kept as a set and original. Unlike most coins, the major auctions recognize this are are delighted to offer these rare survivers intact as a set, to let everyone born in those years run up the bids-- You were very smart to leave them alone, the auctions will give them an accurate grade uncertified.
    morgannut2

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