I received a counterfeit 100.00 at the bank!........
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I cashed a coin check last week and as is my norm, I place the proceeds into my bank box until I find something cool to buy.
The teller was counting out the 100's and finished and I pointed one out to her that caught my eye. She took it and looked closely at it and even used the "pen" on it which showed it to be real. I placed it in my stack and put in my box.
Went in today with another check to do the same and thought while I had the box open that I'd exchange that 100 for another since I didn't like the look of it. Took the 100 out to her at her counter and told her that something was definitely not right with it and that I would like another. She gave me another and then she and I and another teller and the 2 managers inspected the one very closely and I also called my fellow worker that is currently working on a counterfeit case involving 100's and he came too and inspected.
The 100 was bogus. She wrote on it again with the "pen" and her marking looked yellowish and not dark brown or black which means counterfeit. Within a minute or 2, or probably as it dried, the ink disappeared.
The Strip that reads USA 100 upon closer examination was not within the bill but rather applied to the reverse side of the bill which gave the appearance of genuine when quickly held up to the light and inspected. The strip appeared to almost be something like correction tape for a typewriter.
The seal on the front right was also very thick and all of the green lettering including "100" was a shade or 2 darker. The reverse was also just a shade off but on the light side.
One pretty much fail safe way to determine whether or not your 100 is real is to look in the lighter areas for blue and or red colored fibers.....the almost look like little hairs.
On a side note, there are also bills in our area (11 in the past week or 2 in our SMALL town) that do check out as genuine WIth the "pen" and are very deceiving....but again....look for the "hairs". Most of these are series 1996 also.
I have no qualms in saying that my note would have gotten past 999 people out of 1000, if not everyone.
The teller was counting out the 100's and finished and I pointed one out to her that caught my eye. She took it and looked closely at it and even used the "pen" on it which showed it to be real. I placed it in my stack and put in my box.
Went in today with another check to do the same and thought while I had the box open that I'd exchange that 100 for another since I didn't like the look of it. Took the 100 out to her at her counter and told her that something was definitely not right with it and that I would like another. She gave me another and then she and I and another teller and the 2 managers inspected the one very closely and I also called my fellow worker that is currently working on a counterfeit case involving 100's and he came too and inspected.
The 100 was bogus. She wrote on it again with the "pen" and her marking looked yellowish and not dark brown or black which means counterfeit. Within a minute or 2, or probably as it dried, the ink disappeared.
The Strip that reads USA 100 upon closer examination was not within the bill but rather applied to the reverse side of the bill which gave the appearance of genuine when quickly held up to the light and inspected. The strip appeared to almost be something like correction tape for a typewriter.
The seal on the front right was also very thick and all of the green lettering including "100" was a shade or 2 darker. The reverse was also just a shade off but on the light side.
One pretty much fail safe way to determine whether or not your 100 is real is to look in the lighter areas for blue and or red colored fibers.....the almost look like little hairs.
On a side note, there are also bills in our area (11 in the past week or 2 in our SMALL town) that do check out as genuine WIth the "pen" and are very deceiving....but again....look for the "hairs". Most of these are series 1996 also.
I have no qualms in saying that my note would have gotten past 999 people out of 1000, if not everyone.
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Asia has been doing battle with counterfeit $100 for years. In some countries, our $100 isn't even accepted anymore. Kind of like here.
I would have liked to have handled the fake.
<< <i>Interesting. Sounds like the fake stuff is getting pretty good. >>
Looks like its time for the BEP to escalate its never-ending war with the counterfeiters..
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
When I go to the bank and get my usual withdraw of several thousand dollars (daily I might add) I just don't have time to look through all those hundreds
All you have to do is look at the watermark.........that will tell you.
The recent "craze" in counterfieting involves taking normal $5.00 bills and then soaking them to remove the ink.
They are then printed to be a higher denomination on GENUINE paper.
When the pen is applied, they appear to be normal.
Before you accept ANY 100, 50, or 20..........look at the watermark. If the watermark shows Lincoln.....the bill is FAKE.
Pete
I believe the one I had DID have some sort of watermark. I did not think to look at that but the one teller remarked that she had never seen a fake with a watermark. I believe she was commenting because that bill did indeed have some sort of mark.
as far as that note.....probably Kentucky Fried Chicken in town.
they had the last one (a 20.00) that I handled at my bank while on duty.
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Always check for one.
It disturbs me that our special paper is being manufactured so that the pen shows it as real.
That's not good.................
Pete
<< <i>Can you please provide more details on this "pen"? I never heard of it. >>
I believe it is just a highlighter which marks a fake but doesn't mark a genuine bill. At least in theory.
Wife works as a manager at our Target, I explained all of this to her today.
Some of the bills that I've seized while working are incredibly horrible copies and it amazes me that people actually get some of them to pass for real. With these, even I was fooled for a week!
<< <i>The notes and ink are designed to disappear after it dries. That is why every $100 bill does not have the mark on it. They would fill up quickly and have to be taken out of circulation. >>
I did a quick google.....
If the bill is counterfeit and the paper is wood-based, the iodine in the pen solution will react with the starch and leave a dark brown or black mark. If the bill is authentic and the paper is fiber-based, there won't be any starch and the pen will not leave a mark.
it goes on to say that some of the pens have something else in them that will leave a small mark that will disappear after some time so you know what bills you've marked/checked.
I should clarify my original post and say that when she marked the bill it did not turn Dark brown or black!!!
David
I would not take a $100, since I cannot afford to flush $100 for accepting a counterfeit.
And it takes about three seconds to check the watermark, which would ID the fakes.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>I got a bogus $100 from a bank branch too. It was a couple of months ago in Mississippi. >>
Banks are the biggest passers of bad paper.
Surprised?
<< <i>I think the problem is that even though the BEP puts a good mix of anti-counterfeiting devices on the current bills, all that people do is use an 89 cent pen to check them. If that's all that people are going to do, then all the counterfeiters need to do is figure out how to fool the pen. Bleaching the ink out of genuine currency is sufficient. You have authentic paper, and the colored fibers are still there. But the magnetic strip will either have to be faked, or will be missing altogether.
And it takes about three seconds to check the watermark, which would ID the fakes. >>
I'm not sure I agree.
The bleached bill, as you describe, would still have the watermark. The watermark is made during the paper manufacture and is a feature of the paper itself which will not be modified by bleach.
That being said, and from what I understand, bleaching will remove the colored fibers too.
Please also explain how the magnetic strip will disappear if the paper is bleached?
Take care...Mike
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
if I had taken it home I probably would not have had the ease of exchange on the new one.
that and the bank was wanting to use it for educational purposes until they turned it over to the SS.
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They have been warned for years. I took a week long class taught by the Secret Service in 2001 at the ANA summer seminar on counterfeit US currency. The superbills from Asia are very deceiving but can still be caught. Within weeks of the new $100 bills coming out counterfeits started appearing and pamphlets made by the Secret Service for every US bank.
Cameron Kiefer
Just in yesterday's Washington Post: Link- Ink Jet pages contain code that link back to printer and time printed. Code cracked by EFF
Quote form article "The content of the coded information was supposed to be a secret, available only to agencies looking for counterfeiters who use color printers."
edited to add quote.
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was that funny money from selling a funny coin?
(couldnt resist) hope all is well on your end, as my father would say "don't take any wooden nickles"
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Also, I've read that ink in pens is date-coded by manufacture date, as a means of document authentication, when necessary.
<< <i>If the bill is counterfeit and the paper is wood-based >>
goose, what type of paper is our bills made of. I've had a long
held conspiracy theory that our paper is made from hemp.
part of the reason they refuse to legalize.......
Is it????
The fake 100's with lincoln watermarks (Printed on bleached out fives) was reported in the news around here about two weeks ago.
One bill was even an old style small portrait '85 note. Shouldn't the bank have pulled it from circulation?
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Just my opinion
<< <i>The USA 100 security band, while also in the same place, was reversed on some, upside down on others - no consistency on orientation. With inconsistency like that, how the heck is the average shmoe supposed to ID a fake? >>
I don't understand this comment. What do you mean reversed on some, upside down on others? You say it is in the proper place which is good, but the strip itself should say on it USA $100 and then the same thing upside down and it alternates back and forth between those two. So either way half are upside down and half are right side up when viewed through the front face of the note.