What do you think of Coast to Coast Coins?

Weather11am · October 5, 2005 6:32AM

Is there stuff dipped and over graded? I know the prices may be high for somethings, but i like the silver and gold bullion prices. I would not be ordering unc morgan dollars or anything. What do you think of them?

Thanks in advance!!!

kranky · October 5, 2005 6:38AM

You might try searching old threads.

BillJones · October 5, 2005 6:39AM

If you want to enjoy your hobby, turn that Coin World page and make believe you didn't see that ad unless you are buying stuff like 2005 Proof sets. They might not of gotten around to opening those up to work on them.

Here's something you can take to the bank. If a dealer runs a big ad advertising old coins, and there is not a third party graded coin in it, rest assured that there is some "creative grading" involved.

DHeath · October 5, 2005 6:42AM

Search one of my old threads applauding the ANA for expelling them.

Gator5220 · October 5, 2005 6:43AM

I wondered about the 40 BU Morgans for $999...I guess I will wonder no more.

Bear · October 5, 2005 6:44AM

It is almost an embarrassment to advertise in Coin World.

Seems that three out every 4 adds are scuzz balls. The bigger the ad

the more the scuzz. While there are a few legitimate dealers advertising you

have to be very careful and selective or you are screeeewwwwwwd.

koynekwest · October 5, 2005 6:53AM

Did we lose 'em a possible customer? Awwww....

DJC · October 5, 2005 6:55AM

The fact that Coin World continues to take advertising from dealers like them is why I've dropped my sub.

oreville · October 5, 2005 7:09AM

Coast to Coast?

I would NEVER reccomend them to you!

ksteelheader · October 5, 2005 7:23AM

<< It is almost an embarrassment to advertise in Coin World.

Seems that three out every 4 adds are scuzz balls. The bigger the ad

the more the scuzz. While there are a few legitimate dealers advertising you

have to be very careful and selective or you are screeeewwwwwwd. >>

Gatewest Coin Ltd is one of the good guys in Coin World. Mostly Canadian stuff though!! Real coins you know!!

BillJones · October 5, 2005 7:58AM

Back in the old days, Coin World had a little award logo for their “most outstanding advertisers” (a.k.a those who advertised most often with the largest ads.)

IMO that distinction was kind of like winning the “Employee of the Month” award in a whorehouse.

There are honest advertisers in Coin World, but some of the advertisers with the biggest and most often published ads are not among them.

mrearlygold · October 5, 2005 8:07AM

<< Back in the old days, Coin World had a little award logo for their “most outstanding advertisers” (a.k.a those who advertised most often with the largest ads.)

IMO that distinction was kind of like winning the “Employee of the Month” award in a whorehouse.

GoYankees · October 5, 2005 8:07AM

<< You might try searching old threads. >>

Ken Pines (Coast to Coast) expelled from the ANA.

Thread Title: Coast to Coast Coins

Is Coast to Coast legit ?

ttown · October 5, 2005 8:07AM

I"ve brought a graded NGC coin on Ebay from them that was a good deal and made a bullion purchase from them. No problems but a few weeks before getting the coins. I don't buy uncertified type coins anymore there just too much doubt from a picture. I found my local shop had prices a little cheaper even though they mail the items for free. Build a relationship with your local dealers if you can and when it comes time to sell it'll pay off without all the searching.

lordmarcovan · October 5, 2005 8:18AM

I bought one coin from them ever. It was a slabbed coin, and I bought it off one of their eBay auctions. 1917 T1 25c, ANACS MS63 FH.

It was a nice coin, the price was right, and the deal went smoothly.

Of course I was buying a slabbed coin and was able to see a picture of the exact coin before I bought it.

Would I have fared as well buying a raw coin from them sight-unseen? Who knows.

dorancoins · October 5, 2005 8:31AM

<< Is there stuff dipped and over graded? I know the prices may be high for somethings, but i like the silver and gold bullion prices. I would not be ordering unc morgan dollars or anything. What do you think of them? Thanks in advance!!! >>

Regarding whether their stuff is overgraded and dipped - from a purchase some years ago - the answer is yes!

PerryHall · October 5, 2005 8:32AM

The owner, Ken Pines, was booted from the ANA for selling cleaned and overgraded coins.

dorancoins · October 5, 2005 8:33AM

<< The fact that Coin World continues to take advertising from dealers like them is why I've dropped my sub. >>

Thats why I read Numismatic News - higher standards!

dorancoins · October 5, 2005 8:35AM

<< The owner, Ken Pines, was booted from the ANA for selling cleaned and overgraded coins. >>

There is a lesson here - honesty pays, crookedness doen't!

vinman · October 5, 2005 9:08AM

I have had customer come to me with coins that were sold as MS-64's that were cleaned. How we knew that. The customer had me send out the coin to ANACs came back cleaned MS-60. I myself have not bought from them

WaterSport · October 5, 2005 9:30AM

The first and ONLY coins I ever bought from them were dipped Indian heads. I even tried to find them to return them..They do not exsist, they only do mail sales. THEY SUCCCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

WS

BillJones · October 5, 2005 10:32PM

A few years ago I saw of one of these "mail order only" outfits rented a bourse table at a major show. Their display of coins was most enlightening. In general their offerings could be described as cleaned, overgraded and overpriced. Needless to say they didn’t sell very much at the show, but their employees were running around buying stuff.

In addition to sticking it to the public with overgraded and overpriced coins, they also ruin more than their fair share of coins by cleaning them. To uninformed buyers, “brighter is better,” and the best way to get a mail order sale to “stick” is to clean the coins bright. In the mail order business something like 90 to 95 percent of the coins are never returned even if they are burials (atrociously bad buys). That’s how these guys stay in business.

cho10 · October 5, 2005 10:47PM

Regarding whether their stuff is overgraded and dipped - I bought an "Uncirculated Brilliant 1932-D Quarter" (not Brilliant Uncircualted which should have made me wonder) from them in 2000 that was returned by ANACS as "About Uncirculated Net EF45 Cleaned".

From what I hear ALL their raw coins are cleaned. I guess they avoid breaking out slabbed coins to clean them too.

I think there are more reputable and trustworthy dealers around.

vinman · October 5, 2005 10:52PM

my question is,
Have they ever been brought up on any charges. In particular false representation?
Doesn't the Coin World question their intregrity

DJC · October 5, 2005 10:55PM

<< Doesn't the Coin World question their intregrity >>

Not as long as the check clears the bank.

BillJones · October 5, 2005 10:59PM

<< Doesn't the Coin World question their intregrity >>

Please read my post about "Empolyee of the Month" at a whorehouse, and you will know the answer to that one.

Coin World will go after those are do really gross stuff, like sell counterfeits or deliver something other than what was offered. For example years ago a dealer offered rolls of Buffalo nickels in Coin World and rolls of "old' Lincoln cents that were supposed to be dated in the teens and twenties. When the customers got the coins, the nickels turned out to be Jefferson nickels and the cents were dated in the '50s and '60s.

Coin World would not allow that dealer to advertise to SELL coins any more, but they did let him advertise to BUY coins in the clossified section.

See what I mean about the whorehouse?

vinman · October 5, 2005 11:02PM

how many complaints has to happen against a company for something to be done.Also, is it true they lost their ANA standing

Dabigkahuna · October 5, 2005 11:17PM

IMO that distinction was kind of like winning the “Employee of the Month” award in a whorehouse.

UncleWiggly · October 5, 2005 11:34PM

Does anybody have a eBay link to where Coast to Coast is selling a graded coin by a TPG? I have never seen this. The only thing I have known C to C to sell is raw stuff from their mail order business.

Jerry

DJC · October 5, 2005 11:38PM

Coast to Coast About Me page

Doesn't look like they're selling anything right now, but I have seen a few slabs in their auctions before.

Boom · October 6, 2005 6:17AM

They were complained about constantly. I even tried them once years ago and immediately returned all their garbage and lambasted Coin World for allowing Mr. Pines to continue to fleece the masses even in spite of all the numerous complaints written in the Letter to the Editor section.

I, for one, reported him to the ANA and am very glad I did and would do it again in a heartbeat but CW allowing this now expelled ANA member to continue speaks volumes about CW, doesn't it?

In spite of an advertising contract that CW could have gotten out of for Pines' continually breaking CW's very own rules for advertisers, they cannot get it thru their thick skulls that by allowing this to go on their rules are therefore worthless and makes them culpable if not accessories to the Felony called Fraud.

I applaud the ANA but Pines and Coin World have both shown their true colors and as far as I'm concerned they both belong behind bars. To knowingly allow innocent people to get hurt is downright wrong and why a class action lawsuit has not been brought up against both, particularly CW, is simply beyond me.

ziggy29 · October 6, 2005 6:18AM

IrishMike · October 6, 2005 7:08AM

Funny story about my first experience with them. They had a nice red brown 1907 MS IHC for sale on Ebay complete with nice photo. I threw a bid out and won the sucker. The coin came and it was a beauty and I stuck it in my Whitman. Fast forward to my first digital camera and after taking a photo of it something didn't look just right. I happen to take it to FUN to have it graded and a couple weeks later it came back as a Proof 64 RB.

I was 99% certain it was a proof after the photo.

I bought 4 other IHC's out of their mailer and was satisfied with them, they sold them way to cheap. I called them up to see if they had any more to scoop up and unfortunatey not.

RBinTex · October 6, 2005 7:20AM

Total scammers IMO

vam44 · October 6, 2005 7:23AM

Another funny story...
A few years back I was perusing an older dealer`s inventory of dollars, alot of dipped out sliders and such being pushed as gems. I noticed an 87o that didn`t look to bad, he graded it as "unc" and I was thinking maybe a 63, when I noticed something wrong with the date.Lo and behold there was a "booger`s" worth of extra metal that meant it was an 87/6o!

I bought it and sent it to anacs where it graded a 62! CHACHING!
Here`s the funny part. A couple months later I`m looking at this guy`s dollars again,and there was another "unc"87o. As I put a glass to it,BAM! another 87/6o! So I pay the guy 87o 60+ money I ask him where he got his 87o`s from and he replies happily..."Coast to coast!" I really considered ordering a roll of 87o`s from those guys to see "how many" 87/6o`s I might recieve.

Moral of the story: There`s a diamond in every coal mine if you just use the right pickaxe.

paigowjohnny · October 6, 2005 7:58AM

dorancoins · October 6, 2005 12:32PM

<< 

<< Doesn't the Coin World question their intregrity >>

Not as long as the check clears the bank. >>

Goes to show.....Coin World doesn't care about intregrity - only about greed. Thats why Krause/FW is way better!

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