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Did I rip or get ripped? Franklin and a couple of Kennedys

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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570
    That Franlin is pretty cool. Had I seen it, I probably would have out bid you.

    I'm surprised Braddick didn't send it in for grading though.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Ask Braddick if he ripped you, or you ripped him... I'll keep my comments to myself.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ask Braddick if he ripped you, or you ripped him... I'll keep my comments to myself. >>





    I agree with Marty on this....I saw the auctions too.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    The Franklin is blatant AT.

    Russ, NCNE
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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Some would question the toning on the Frankie.
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    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Franklin is blatant AT.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Maybe I can send it to Ncs, then to Teletrade like this one...

    Genuine Artificially Toned
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    Ive sent many AT coins to ncs in fl. then enroute to TT for auction. I have 10x my money on some; but never once broke even [only bright pretty AT though]image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe I can send it to Ncs, then to Teletrade like this one...

    Genuine Artificially Toned >>



    Holy crap! $110? Damn! Makes one think about cooking up some coins.

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>The Franklin is blatant AT.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Ya know Russ I hate it when you pull punches... when are you going to learn to tell it like it is.....

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That Franklin came from the same grouping of halves with a few ending up in ANACS AT holders. One sold on Teletrade, a few months back, only then to be submitted with PCGS and holdered on the second attempt, from what I understand, reading this forum.

    From that same hoard, here's another ANACS (with same insert number grouping as the first ANACS AT Franklins) I'm selling on Teletrade on August 17th:
    LINK

    So... will this one also end up in a PCGS holder down the road?

    Edited to add: Here's the former AT ANACS holdered Franklin that ended up in a PCGS holder (after the second attempt) and then sold on eBay by the same Teletrade buyer: eBay LINK
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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    All I can say is someone got ripped, that much is for certain.
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    Unless something is wrong with your camera and your photo suite, that Franklin from the auction in question as the topic of this thread will never holder at PCGS. This is only my opinion of course. But I would put strong money on it. They may have come from the same group as the one Russ sold, but they are not kin. The one Russ sold has a daddy, and the other one, the one in this thread, has a midnight rider for a daddy. Those are just my thoughts, they are not worth much except to me! image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They may have come from the same group as the one Russ sold, but they are not kin. >>



    They didn't. Setting aside for a minute the radical difference in toning on the one in the auction compared to the one I bought, let's focus on this statement:



    << <i>That Franklin came from the same grouping of halves with a few ending up in ANACS AT holders. One sold on Teletrade, a few months back, only then to be submitted with PCGS and holdered on the second attempt, from what I understand, reading this forum.

    From that same hoard, here's another ANACS (with same insert number grouping as the first ANACS AT Franklins) I'm selling on Teletrade on August 17th: >>



    Here's the coin I bought:

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    And the coin linked above:

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    The insert numbers are more than 26,000 coins apart.

    Russ, NCNE
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    AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some would question the toning on the Frankie. >>



    Me among them.
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're right. I got that wrong.
    The coin I'm offering now on Teletrade was submitted after the first one that sold on Teletrade. Still the same "batch" of coins though (just submitted weeks apart from one another).

    Most were sold in a Franklin album on eBay around the time the one you purchased off of Teletrade sold. I had a couple of extra from the set and placed this one on eBay.
    Stephunter: If you receive the coin and don't like it for any reason, ship it back and I'll refund the full auction price (keep the other two halves) plus two way postage.
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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Free coins!

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    $60 looks like a pretty good price for the three of them.
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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Franklin is blatant AT. >>



    Teach us ignorant ones who want to learn. What do you see on the coin that tells you that?

    Thanks.
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I can't believe that anybody would think that could be legitimate toning on that franklin.......... image
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    DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a good deal for the seller, IMO the Frankie is AT and a slider image.

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    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You're right. I got that wrong.
    The coin I'm offering now on Teletrade was submitted after the first one that sold on Teletrade. Still the same "batch" of coins though (just submitted weeks apart from one another).

    Most were sold in a Franklin album on eBay around the time the one you purchased off of Teletrade sold. I had a couple of extra from the set and placed this one on eBay.
    Stephunter: If you receive the coin and don't like it for any reason, ship it back and I'll refund the full auction price (keep the other two halves) plus two way postage. >>



    Thanks for the offer to provide a refund, but I am not concerned about it. I like the coins and don't have any intention to return them.

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