Heads up- something does not look right with these rare full step Jeffersons on ebay!

stephunter · August 4, 2005 4:31AM

These are some very tough and expensive Jeffersons. The seller only has one recent feedback, and the certification numbers on the 51-S and 60 do not match Pcgs records. The pictures are fuzzy, but to give the seller the benefit of the doubt I emailed to verify the cert numbers. Does anyone have a way to check and see if these are registered in a registry set?

Link to auctions

MadMarty · August 4, 2005 4:41AM

The 51 matches

Date, mintmark: 1951-S
Denomination: 5C
Variety: N/A
Pedigree:
Country: USA
Grade: MS66FS

so does the 60

Date, mintmark: 1960
Denomination: 5C
Variety: N/A
Pedigree:
Country: USA
Grade: MS65FS

You need how to read the cert numbers off of pictures!

LincolnsRule · August 4, 2005 4:42AM

I bet it's the same person as all the phony 3-day paypal only key date red Lincoln auctions.

Russ · August 4, 2005 4:44AM

Hijacked account using Heritage images.

Russ, NCNE

Bochiman · August 4, 2005 4:48AM

I don't get the "satin" comment though....sounds like seller is trying to capitalize off the recently released Mint Sets.

stephunter · August 4, 2005 4:53AM

<< The 51 matches

Date, mintmark: 1951-S
Denomination: 5C
Variety: N/A
Pedigree:
Country: USA
Grade: MS66FS

so does the 60

Date, mintmark: 1960
Denomination: 5C
Variety: N/A
Pedigree:
Country: USA
Grade: MS65FS

You need how to read the cert numbers off of pictures! >>

What is the number on that 60? I get 6504902?

Smittys · August 4, 2005 5:09AM

Hijacked looks about right, unless he list his
overdrive pedal.

NIckelCollector · August 4, 2005 5:17AM

The 1956 MS67FS listed in this auction is a pop 1 coin.

Since the Just Having Fun collection contains a 1956 MS67FS this auction is definitely a fraud unless JHF is selling (which I doubt) or the pop #s I have are incorrect.

Frank

Dennis88 · August 4, 2005 5:45AM

<< What is the number on that 60? I get 6504902? >>

It's 6604902

p8nt · August 4, 2005 6:35AM

1951-S: 21403354

PCGS Says:

Date, mintmark: 1931-S
Denomination: 5C
Variety: N/A
Pedigree:
Country: USA
Grade: MS64

coinguy1 · August 4, 2005 6:41AM

Someone just sent this to the seller:

"Dear seller,
It is obvious to the rare coin/Ebay community that this and your other coin listings are scams, as collectors know who the true owners of these EXACT coins are.

So, you are either an innocent party who has been asked by someone else to list these coins (which neither you nor he could possibly have and others have fallen prey to the same scenario) or you are in fact the scammer.

Either way, be aware that these auctions are being reported and that there are serious potential legal consequences involved."

Russ · August 4, 2005 6:43AM

That sounds like it was written by a lawyer.

Russ, NCNE

relayer · August 4, 2005 6:46AM

<< there are serious potential legal consequences involved >>

coinguy1 · August 4, 2005 7:20AM

<< That sounds like it was written by a lawyer >>

Actually, it was written by a wannabe coin dealer, non-wannabe lawyer.

leothelyon · August 4, 2005 8:14AM

<< The 1956 MS67FS listed in this auction is a pop 1 coin.

Since the Just Having Fun collection contains a 1956 MS67FS this auction is definitely a fraud unless JHF is selling (which I doubt) or the pop #s I have are incorrect.

Frank >>

Leo

mademan · August 4, 2005 8:24AM

I now show thatone person has bid on 2 of the coins--I wonder if the seller hijacked another acct to use as a shill bidder because the bidder has excellent numbers but has not bid on anything in a while--I am so glad you guys hipped me to this **** thanks Don/MM

leothelyon · August 4, 2005 9:00AM

<< I now show thatone person has bid on 2 of the coins--I wonder if the seller hijacked another acct to use as a shill bidder because the bidder has excellent numbers but has not bid on anything in a while--I am so glad you guys hipped me to this **** thanks Don/MM >>

Whatever you do Don, the 1956 is mine!

Leo

Russ · August 6, 2005 2:05AM

I can't believe eBay hasn't ended these auctions. This one is a no-brainer.

Russ, NCNE

leothelyon · August 6, 2005 4:37AM

I have also sent the seller and bidders some info on these coins without coming right out and saying something that may get me in trouble with whomever. The very unlikely senario is if these coins are being sold because they might be overgraded. I have not tried contacting JHS or the other possible owners of the other coins.

But I do see a senario that someone is going to take the money and run!

Leo

leothelyon · August 6, 2005 2:14PM

Laugh Out Loud!

Leo

Myqqy · August 6, 2005 2:22PM

Headwackdal???

stephunter · August 6, 2005 2:30PM

I sure hope these bidders don't get hosed.

Gemini · August 6, 2005 2:30PM

Flashbashbo seems to know a good deal when he sees it...

wondercoin · August 7, 2005 12:00PM

I was out of town yesterday, but was alerted by a forum member that JHF's 1956(p) nickel from his registered set was being auctioned off on ebay. The collector threw down an initial bid of $5,600 on the coin to ensure no innocent collector would win the coin and pay for it, but withdrew the bid after (I am told) Leo alerted him that he was going to throw down an even higher bid for essentially the same purpose.

Leo - did you get a confirmation that this was, indeed, a case of a hijacked ebay account?

Wondercoin

Justhavingfun · August 7, 2005 2:36PM

Thank you all for trying to protect my interests. I've had answered sooner, but have taken ill and just staggered out of bed to warn people on this forum about a counterfeit in the US Philippine series. In checking my e-mail, Mr. Wondercoin had thoughtfully supplied a link to this.

The actions and concerned of the people on this thread is an awesome display of brotherhood. It makes my eyes misty. I will write more later when I'm better, but for now ...

I assure you categorically that my Jefferson Nickels are NOT for sale, neither singly or as a collection.

Warm regards,

Just Having Fun

MJPHELAN · August 7, 2005 9:47PM

Get well soon JHF.

I also contacted the seller when the auction opened and told him the coins were not available. He admitted he was selling the coins for someone else. I told him to confirm the coins were available if he was going to continue the auction. Makes me wonder how innocent the seller is.

leothelyon · August 8, 2005 7:37AM

<< Get well soon JHF.

I also contacted the seller when the auction opened and told him the coins were not available. He admitted he was selling the coins for someone else. I told him to confirm the coins were available if he was going to continue the auction. Makes me wonder how innocent the seller is. >>

Mitch,
I believe Mark made more headway then I did.

Leo

Heads up- something does not look right with these rare full step Jeffersons on ebay!

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