Buy / Sell / Trade Forum Suggestions for the Drive By Posters

dragon · July 3, 2005 10:46AM

Have you ever noticed there are a select few who use the PCGS B/S/T forum for nothing more than free advertising space for their Ebay auctions and coins they have for sale, and never contribute anything else or post to any of the other forums?

On another non-coin related forum I belong to, they have a rule that you cannot post in the "for sale or trade forum" until you have 1000 posts in the general forum. Do you think PCGS should adopt the same rules to prevent the "drive by posters" just looking for free classified ads here?

prooflike · July 3, 2005 10:52AM

Yes, sounds good to me!

lordmarcovan · July 3, 2005 10:56AM

Nice in theory, but nah.

At the rate some people post it would take 'em several years to accumulate 1,000 posts.

I for one see nothing wrong with an otherwise-silent lurker to post items for sale, as long as they abide by the rules and etiquette of the BST.

markglicker · July 3, 2005 11:07AM

A better rule would be a payment of $100 to each member, before posting to the B-S-T.

wjd283 · July 3, 2005 11:09AM

<< <i>Have you ever noticed there are a select few who use the PCGS B/S/T forum for nothing more than free advertising space for their Ebay auctions and coins they have for sale, and never contribute anything else or post to any of the other forums? >>

I apologize,and will endeavor to refrain from that activity.

JrGMan2004 · July 3, 2005 11:21AM

<< <i>Nice in theory, but nah.

At the rate some people post it would take 'em several years to accumulate 1,000 posts.

I for one see nothing wrong with an otherwise-silent lurker to post items for sale, as long as they abide by the rules and etiquette of the BST. >>

DorkGirl · July 3, 2005 11:37AM

I would have had to hit the cheat threads really hard to make it to 1000 posts before I sold anything

I have sold quite a bit of stuff to people with very few posts, so there are those that buy without posting much too.

goose3 · July 3, 2005 11:45AM

I say charge a small fee for the thread and not have the thread appear until it is cleared by a mod.

also, have a set of rules clearly posted at the top of the page and on the page when you are typing up your ad. If you don't follow the rules, 3 strikes and you're out.

that board has pretty much turned into a coinworld in print.

LindeDad · July 3, 2005 11:46AM

Sorry but all that would do is encorage the cheat treads more than they are now. And who is to say that a person is a legit seller just because they can say +1 999+1 times.

LucyBop · July 3, 2005 11:49AM

<< <i>Sorry but all that would do is encorage the cheat treads more than they are now. And who is to say that a person is a legit seller just because they can say +1 999+1 times. >>

+1

LindeDad · July 3, 2005 11:55AM

+1

dragon · July 3, 2005 12:02PM

<<< And who is to say that a person is a legit seller just because they can say +1 999+1 times. >>>

It has nothing to do with being legit or otherwise, it has to do with people who have no interest in the PCGS forums other than exploiting it for their free advertisements.

RYK · July 3, 2005 12:22PM

Here's my 2 cents worth:

I hold the BST sellers who are regular posters on the US Coin Forum and respected board members in very high regard, and for better or worse, I would be very much inclined to do a deal with them if there were a coin of interest.

I hold the BST sellers who are not regular US Coin Forum posters in neutral (at best) regard and would no sooner deal with them than a random seller in a Coin World classified ad. Some are clearly carpetbaggers of questionable or nefarious intent, and I will call them on it if the opportunity presents itself.

Bochiman · July 3, 2005 12:23PM

Nope....not for a rule on that, but I can tell you that I generally skip buy, and do not buy, from those types of users.

Now, if I see someone contributing on these forums, then I see a BST from them, I am much more inclined to open it and give it serious thought.

ER · July 3, 2005 12:39PM

Not related to drive-by posters, but, see what I just posted over there.

ER · July 3, 2005 12:41PM

It's amazing to me people are still pulling that stun. Twice today already, from 2 different people.

stman · July 3, 2005 12:58PM

Heh, well you see Dragon if the "fresh meat" weren't allowed to put up adds on the BST it might ruin the entertainment value for many.
Granted, there are some scammers but a few like to have their little chit-chat sessions on there and bump everybody else's threads to the bottom.
Add in bumping they buddies threads all the time as well. Yeah, they like to jump on "fresh meat" for saying it's illegal to charge 3% extra for Paypal....
while many of the regulars do the same thing (and they buddies) and they say nothing. Hmmm... sorry just like always, as I've learned
on here it's not who ya know but who ya... never mind.

mirabela · July 3, 2005 1:16PM

1,000 posts? Sounds kinda steep. I probably flap my mouth too much already. That would only encourage me...

I have fewer posts than that, but I've sold a good many things on BST, and I can't remember any of them yet having resulted in less than a happy buyer. I've made successful purchases there from people who aren't constant posters over here, too. I get your idea, though. I might be in favor of something like member for X amount of time, or something.

If I could snap my fingers and make the BST forum the way I'd like it, I'd say you can't post anything there unless it's actually for sale there. I don't care one bit who's selling what on ebay, and I don't link my own auctions from there.

michael · July 3, 2005 1:48PM

agree with dragon and goose

Coinhusker1 · July 3, 2005 2:07PM

This would be nice in theory, but, as several mentioned, whatever minimum post count is set, the "carpetbaggers" would just hit a cheat thread or two to get there.

I take RYK's point of view, I am strongly inclined to buy from those who contribute to the forum, and are wary of those selling stuff who I do not "recognize" from the US Coin forum.

MikeInFL · July 3, 2005 2:44PM

How about not counting posts in the BST forum towards the post count?..>Mike

LucyBop · July 3, 2005 2:47PM

How about a new rule that only Frankies can be bought and sold on the BST?

RYK · July 3, 2005 3:36PM

Post count does not equate to quality of numismatic participation. If Seth Chandler or Longacre (both likely under 1000) had a coin that interested me, it would not matter how many posts they had made in the past, and for this reason, it should not be a qualifier to list a coin on the BST. Similarly, there quite a few members with post counts in the thousands from whom I would not buy a dollar for 10 cents.

If PCGS had an "ignore user" function, it would be easier to navigate that board and exclude the repeat sellers to whom you are making reference. You might miss out on some entertainment, though.

WACoinGuy · July 3, 2005 4:02PM

Maybe not an absolute count, but a relative count. No more than 10% of your total posts can be in the BST forum, for example.

wjd283 · July 3, 2005 4:12PM

It does'nt bother me.

If It's an ID that I don't recognize I would'nt buy from them anyway.

PerryHall · July 3, 2005 5:17PM

I'm against the proposed 1000 post rule since it would encourage these people to post nonsense such as "+1" and such which would really junk up these boards.

Sandhawk · July 3, 2005 5:49PM

How about they just have a separate EBAY Forum, where everyone can TTT their ebay threads all day long and not interfere with the coin posts on the BST forum !!

ms70 · July 3, 2005 6:22PM

Dragon- Did you ever think that just maybe the regulars might use an alt id for eBay & the BST forum to avoid having their auctions screwed with by jerks due to personality conflicts?

PerryHall · July 3, 2005 9:22PM

ms70---Very good point. What's your alt id?

rb7557 · July 3, 2005 10:11PM

It would take me more than a year to get 1000 posts!!!

DJC · July 3, 2005 10:25PM

Certainly their are many who never seem to surface over here, and are always very active on the BST board, but the same could be said about several of the other forums. I almost never post in the Sportscard, world coin, and currency board, and spend more time on the US coin forum than the stamp forum (even though I'm more active financially in stamps than I ever will be in coins, there are just very few stamp guys here) but wouldn't want to be kept away from their respective BST boards because of "posting limitations"

Also consider schedule limitations in the case of full time dealers. Quite a few board members are full timers and do quite a few shows, and may not have as much time to hang out on the boards as others. Guys like Mark Feld and Julian may not be able to maintain a certain post count, post per day, or percentage of posts, but I wouldn't want that to preclude them from sharing their inventory on the BST board.

roadrunner · July 3, 2005 11:50PM

I find the BST of little value and could care less if it stays, goes, or gets altered. It's littered with too much trash in general. In most cases, you can find the same item of equivalent quality on ebay or from another private individual or dealer at less money.

roadrunner

DHeath · July 3, 2005 11:56PM

There's a buy, sell trade forum?

Seriously, I don't visit, and I buy coins in half-dozen other venues. PCGS could easily improve its useability by breaking the lump down into categories, discouraging any reference to Ebay listings even if the coin were for sale elsewhere, limiting the number of listings per user to 5 at any given time, and not allowing additional responses to the initial post. Want to add one and you already have 5 up? Take one down. Lastly, one coin per listing, with silly things like date/mm/denomination/holder/grade in the title. Lots of work for PCGS, but it would make the forum a must for me when I shop.

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