1804 Silver Dollar bidding starts at $3,500.00

Gemini · July 2, 2005 1:26PM

Anyone know the pedigree on this one?

Artist · July 2, 2005 1:32PM

Could it be a one of those rare, Chinese-made, U.S. ultra rarities???

Shamika · July 2, 2005 2:00PM

<< All sales are final and no returns will be made on this item if you buy this coin it will be up to you to have it authenticated and if you dont well its your choice you can do what you want to with it, when and if you buy it. >>

There you go!

clw54 · July 2, 2005 2:03PM

<< All sales are final and no returns will be made on this item if you buy this coin it will be up to you to have it authenticated and if you dont well its your choice you can do what you want to with it, when and if you buy it. >>

I was going to criticize his punctuation until I noticed he'd snuck a comma in there.

markglicker · July 2, 2005 2:35PM

Looks like the sucker of Siam, restrike.

markglicker · July 2, 2005 2:36PM

If you want to have some fun, bid the $3500. You will be safe, as this is under the reserve.

markglicker · July 2, 2005 2:39PM

I was going to buy it, till I realized his finger was touching the obverse.

TommyType · July 2, 2005 2:52PM

<< I was going to buy it, till I realized his finger was touching the obverse. >>

Noticed that.....It may be artifact of the camera angle, but either his fingers REALLY BIG, or that's one small silver dollar.

Gemini · July 2, 2005 8:32PM

I think the coin pedigrees back to the Shanghai collection of Jur King Mai Chaen...

Gemini · July 2, 2005 8:34PM

<< 

<< I was going to buy it, till I realized his finger was touching the obverse. >>

Noticed that.....It may be artifact of the camera angle, but either his fingers REALLY BIG, or that's one small silver dollar. >>

Must be the United States of Anemia version...

ER · July 2, 2005 8:37PM

a$$

PerryHall · July 2, 2005 9:15PM

<< If you want to have some fun, bid the $3500. You will be safe, as this is under the reserve. >>

Can the seller remove or lower his reserve? If so you may be required to pay the $3500 or take a neg.

majorbigtime · July 2, 2005 10:07PM

<< 

<< All sales are final and no returns will be made on this item if you buy this coin it will be up to you to have it authenticated and if you dont well its your choice you can do what you want to with it, when and if you buy it. >>

There you go! >>

Hmmmmmm " you can do what you want to with it, " Kinda' sonds like stick it where the sun don't shine!

Robgetty · July 2, 2005 10:40PM

I've been needing an 1804 for a while, but I promised myself I'd wait for at least an MS62.

Guess I'll pass.

RotatedRainbows · July 2, 2005 11:45PM

At least he is not trying to gouge people on shipping, it is a reasonable $150 (insurance is extra of course).

bestclser1 · July 2, 2005 11:52PM

AH yes,the sum dum fake collection

PerryHall · July 3, 2005 12:10AM

Not even a good fake. Very crude. Has anyone sent this guy a message letting him know that its fake? As if he doesn't already know.

flaminio · July 3, 2005 12:15AM

<< Can the seller remove or lower his reserve? If so you may be required to pay the $3500 or take a neg. >>

Nope, eBay won't let a seller do this. You can change it around all you want before a bid is in, but once someone's bid you have to either let it ride out or cancel the whole auction.

A $3500 bid should be safe here, but no way would I bid $3501

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tlhoy · July 3, 2005 12:18AM

Look at his feedback!

Some of the feedback he has received was on the same day or the day after the auction ended.

flaminio · July 3, 2005 12:48AM

I emailed the seller, asking (innocently enough) that if the coin was so valuable, that they should get it certified. The response:

We stuck this coin up before we new what was the real worth of the coin.
my brother looked it up and then he told me I needed to change the priceing and to put a huge reserve on it.
If the coin does'nt sell after a few try's I am going to take it to Houston and find a certifier, at one of the coin dealers over there. I Work all week and have to put so many hours just to make what I make, and it hard for me to take any time off, I have three children and a new house note and two vehicles to pay for. One day is one day that I realy need. We all stuggle sometimes I'm not complaining.
So just thats easier said than done. A man just asked me a questoin, that you might want to know.
"He asked if the side were fluted plain are did they have writing on them", I told him that they were plain and smooth like a nickle.
I have had a man that is a coin collector come buy the office and he looked it over and he said !!!wow!!! He told me if he had the money he would buy it. Some times you have things that are put up that are worth some thing and some times they are worth nothing.
It just takes the right person that wants it bad enough to help you when you need it. Hey, thank you for your question and have a nice day. e-mail me back if you know someone in Houston that is honest and will give me a fare price for this coin.

I have little doubt that the coin is fake, but the seller seems sincere enough -- not your typical Shanghai Scammer.

markglicker · July 3, 2005 12:56AM

Somebody should encourage him to drop the auction.

ziggy29 · July 3, 2005 1:18AM

<< Hey, thank you for your question and have a nice day. e-mail me back if you know someone in Houston that is honest and will give me a fare price for this coin. >>

I'm in Houston. My offer is $10 for the novelty value.

I think that's more than fair.

Shamika · July 3, 2005 2:27AM

<< my brother looked it up and then he told me... >>

His brother wouldn't lie.

mgoodm3 · July 3, 2005 2:28AM

Should trade it for my 1806 seated dollar, as both are very valuable.

BillJones · July 3, 2005 2:30AM

It only takes two seconds to that the coin is a fake.

There is nothing right about it, unless he's found a new 1804 dollar die pair.

roadrunner · July 3, 2005 2:49AM

Yes. Life is such a stuggle for this seller. But at least he answers questoins for his bidders. You can add this nice gem to your collectoin too.

This reminds me. I'd better get back to looking through my old coins like this guy did so I too can run across an 1804 silver dollar! Talk about luck!

Happen to note that under the pic of the coin is a label "EF-40?'
Can you say scam scam scam?

roadrunner

topstuf · July 3, 2005 2:49AM

To fairly assess the value, I think we would need to know if the Airtite holder is included.

stev32k · July 3, 2005 2:55AM

I was going to bid on the coin until I noticed the shipping charge. It's $150 for next day air - that seems a little excessive to me - especially for a $10 coin.

roadrunner · July 3, 2005 3:14AM

The next day air fee of $150 is so that the seller can persanolly deliver the cion to you....and then go through your hous and old change drawor free of charge to locate other valubul cions. He certanly has the "nack for finedeeng old cions and neet colectubles."

roadrunner

hedgehog847 · July 3, 2005 3:31AM

Someone tell this idiot that a comma and a period are two different things!! The true victim here is the English language.

Gemini · July 3, 2005 3:35AM

I like the one where seller said "I found these coins in my Grandmothers old drawers"

chloebess · July 3, 2005 3:41AM

This seller has a few other "goodies" for sale. You might want to check them out, too. Some real nice stuff, Morgan, Peace, Walker....................rare finds!

I don't think he is "innocent". My guess is that he knows what he is doing.

lordmarcovan · July 3, 2005 4:36AM

<< My Grand-Father traveled the world and his mom had boarding house's all over. So they were able to collect alot of change and old dollar bills, from here and abroad. >>

Yeah, Grampa must've spent some time in the Far East.

<< This seller has a few other "goodies" for sale. You might want to check them out, too. Some real nice stuff, Morgan, Peace, Walker....................rare finds! >>

I didn't see any Peace dollars, but I did notice an "MS65" Peice dollar.

geb209 · July 3, 2005 5:07AM

Seller nice? maybe not.

PerryHall · July 3, 2005 5:21AM

His grandpa may have picked this coin up 40 years ago while serving in Viet Nam. These were quite common and the local merchants would sell them to the US solders for a few dollars. Let's give this guy the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's honest but very, very stupid.

DennisH · July 3, 2005 5:32AM

Isn't it illegal to sell counterfeit coins, and even if they're proven to be counterfeit after the fact isn't the seller liable?

lathmach · July 3, 2005 5:39AM

This is one of those counterfeits made in Fai Keng, China.
They're called Fai Keng fakes.

Ray

tlhoy · July 3, 2005 5:52AM

<< His grandpa may have picked this coin up 40 years ago while serving in Viet Nam. These were quite common and the local merchants would sell them to the US solders for a few dollars. Let's give this guy the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's honest but very, very stupid. >>

This guy is scum! I'll post this again. He knows exactly what he's doing!

Look at his feedback!

Some of the feedback he has received was on the same day or the day after the auction ended.

markglicker · July 3, 2005 5:55AM

Look fellas, we are having our fun, but some rube may end up buying the coin, for a pricely sum. I am contacting Ebay on this.

lordmarcovan · July 3, 2005 6:01AM

<< Look fellas, we are having our fun, but some rube may end up buying the coin, for a pricely sum. I am contacting Ebay on this. >>

I already did.

streeter · July 3, 2005 7:25AM

This guy is a complete horses behind.

He sells a harley jacket on the 29th in TX--is paid and the buyer receives the jacket in OREGON and gives feedback 3 days later--ya right.
He sells louis Vuitton

and the buyer in GERMANY gets item and leaves feedback 3 days later.

Look at his feedback given for those Louis Vuitton sales----just a rube in the middle of TX selling french designer items? I never knew TX had acquired so much style from joe 6pack

This guy is a real prize.

FAKE ITEM, VEWY VEWY BAD PERSON, HORRIBLE EBAYOR...... of course--JMHO

Capstick · July 3, 2005 7:40AM

I'm surprised that the 1893 Morgan is only listed at a starting price of $45.00. You would think that a coin that goes for $125+ in a vf-20 would be listed a little higher.

stev32k · July 4, 2005 4:37AM

It looks like ebray took some action. It's no longer a valid item.

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