1836 capped bust opinions

Vet · June 23, 2005 5:56PM

Vet · June 24, 2005 2:38AM

Let me try this again

dthigpen · June 24, 2005 2:40AM

It's definately an 1836 Capped Bust Half...

Danegeld · June 24, 2005 2:42AM

Hmmm, VF-20?

Danegeld · June 24, 2005 2:42AM

Nah, F-12

FC57Coins · June 24, 2005 2:45AM

Agreed - F12 - may have been cleaned in the past. Hard to tell from the pic.

Vet · June 24, 2005 2:57AM

Sorry about the bad scans I can't seem to get them better. It has been cleaned more so on the obv than the rev do to the visable hairlines when held at an angle to the light. I was thinking of selling it on e-bay ,wanted another opinion on grade I was going with VG8 to F12 cleaned,open at $40. does this seem fair?

Cladiator · June 24, 2005 3:01AM

I'd say it's a solid G. Hard to tell about the cleaning with those pics but that being said it looks like some rough cleaning lines on the bust, I'm sure the thing has been cleaned at least once in it's time. If you're going to put it on the bay just open it at 99 cents and see what happens.

BillJones · June 24, 2005 3:07AM

I'd say that there is a chance that it is a counterfeit. I can't say that with 100% accuracy from this scan, but my initial reaction to it is not positive. Counterfeits were not unusual during this period. This is something weird about the odd sharpness (looks like a Good, except for the E Pluribus Unum), color and overall relief. If it is real, I’d give it no more than a Good-6.

OKbustchaser · June 24, 2005 3:14AM

Overton 113, not a counterfiet (unless cast)

I would call it a solid good.

Jim

BillJones · June 24, 2005 3:20AM

<< <i>Overton 113, not a counterfiet (unless cast) >>

Well, it's not one of the poorly executed German counterfeits with the big nose and sometimes the wrong edge (lettered when it should be reeded) and motto (which should not be there). If it is bad, it is a cast copy.

Vet · June 24, 2005 3:32AM

It's a silver coin not cast. It still has some luster left, looks better in hand except for the hairlines that really bother me. I brought this back up today for some opinions .I guess nobody is up at 1:00 am.

Thanks everyone

BillJones · June 24, 2005 4:19AM

Just a bit of advice to those who graded this coin Fine or VF. The completeness of the word "LIBERTY" is not a grading point for Bust coinage. For the quarters and half dollars especially, a piece would have to be worn down to Fair or About Good for the feature to begin to disappear. The word in struck very deeply into the coin, and it’s not a grading point for these series.

Baley · June 24, 2005 4:26AM

Luster? on a coin this worn?

Sure it's not "shine"?

Vet · June 24, 2005 4:38AM

<< <i>Luster? on a coin this worn?

Sure it's not "shine"? >>

The coin is kind of a smoke gray in color but the recesses seem to have a glow from under the gray. Luster may not be the best choice of words.

mozin · June 24, 2005 5:26AM

G-6

jdimmick · June 24, 2005 5:31AM

I agree with Bill J, at best a good-6. Also, the color and surfaces look odd, (actually does kinda look like a cast) if not its definitely been worked on and cleaned up a bit.

jim

OKbustchaser · June 24, 2005 5:32AM

Looks more like it has been though a fire...not burned but pretty well smoked.

Vet · June 24, 2005 7:18AM

<< <i>Looks more like it has been though a fire...not burned but pretty well smoked. >>

I think thats my scans I don't see evidence of having been in a fire.

lordmarcovan · June 24, 2005 7:24AM

My vote is G6, genuine, and probably cleaned (not that it matters much on a low grade Bust half).

Vet · June 24, 2005 7:29AM

<< <i>My vote is G6, genuine, and probably cleaned (not that it matters much on a low grade Bust half). >>

remember the alamo 1836

Vet · June 24, 2005 10:04AM

I work with a guy who has the #10 registry set of walking libertys with PCGS (Half dollar heaven). His first reaction was whow it still has mint luster in the protected areas.

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