The Hypothetical threads

Julian · June 22, 2005 4:36AM

I happen to enjoy the threads and believe that they do offer educational tools for both collectors and dealers.

As you may have seen, I responded to all of them, and for the most part, the answers were pretty clear to me.

It was very interesting to see other viewpoints, as well.

Andy said that he ran them because he was preparing for a class that he is giving at the summer seminar. I believe him.

For those of you that took offense, he apologized, but IMHO...........

The threads are a valuable tool.

Steve27 · June 22, 2005 4:38AM

"Andy said that he ran them because he was preparing for a class that he is giving at the summer seminar."

I just want to know if it's a class on coins or business law?

cladking · June 22, 2005 4:46AM

I opened four or five of these.

I think I responded to only a couple but am still tracking the others.

It doesn't matter where a good thread comes from. It doesn't matter if it's a great poster
who starts them or not. MrEureka is one of the best so that will always make me a little more
likely to open one of his threads than someone else's. And, of course, the clear descriptive
titles make it possible.

Russ · June 22, 2005 4:52AM

I opened none of them. They didn't have "Legend" or "wannabe" in the titles.

Russ, NCNE

BillJones · June 22, 2005 4:55AM

"Legend" and wannabe" are starting to become two things that will propt me NOT to open a thread.

HTubbs · June 22, 2005 4:58AM

nuts...

RKKay · June 22, 2005 4:59AM

<< "Andy said that he ran them because he was preparing for a class that he is giving at the summer seminar."

I just want to know if it's a class on coins or business law? >>

It's a class on pattern coinage.

TommyType · June 22, 2005 5:24AM

<< I happen to enjoy the threads and believe that they do offer educational tools for both collectors and dealers. >>

I only had time for the first 10 or so, but I enjoyed and learned from them as well. Some take-away thoughts:

-It's seems its sometimes easier in these situations to be the collector. Collectors often, rightly or wrongly, EXPECT to be protected by the dealer when things go wrong.
-Legality and ethics are often over-riden by business relationships. "Do the right thing" often means the dealer has to eat a loss to preserve his reputation, even when he had done nothing wrong.
-Percieved knowledge often came into play. "Should have known better" seemed to be more important than "You got stiffed" when assessing blame.
-Most importantly, think about the potential problems BEFORE they become problems. Many of the scenarios could have been prevented by discussing and agreeing on a course of action before the deal was completed.

Tom

dragon · June 22, 2005 5:26AM

I agree with you Julian, they were interesting and fun to respond to.

MrEureka · June 22, 2005 5:31AM

It's a class on pattern coinage.

No. Rick and I are teaching a mini-seminar on patterns, but these hypotheticals were in preparation for a "bull session" that I will be doing with the assistance of Pistareen, Regulated and Jerry Bobbe. The "bull session" will cover ethics and business standards (or lack of same) in the coin market. As I have said before, many of the responses I received here helped me refine the issues that will be presented in Colorado Springs. Once again, thanks to all who participated here, and I'm glad some of you found it enjoyable.

morgannut2 · June 22, 2005 5:32AM

I was interested in all the opinions. There does seem to be a fundamental disconnect on counterfeit coins and who is liable when a dealer vs. unknowledgeable collector are trading. Actually I'd like to see some court opinions on appeal....

ss350camaro · June 22, 2005 5:40AM

I found them very enjoyable and very thought provoking.

I hope to see many more like them in the near future

P.S. I hope those that enjoy them choose to participate, and those that don't enjoy them, or think they should pi$$ on everyone elses fun, don't participate.

Longacre · June 22, 2005 5:49AM

I liked them and thought they were very thought provoking. I also liked reading the other's responses. I am not a psychologist, but you can tell a lot about someone by their responses to those hypos. I said this before, it did not bother me in the least that they were all on page 1 for a while. I would not want everyone to do something like this, but once in a while (for a good cause), is fine. I am not sure why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch, or their knickers in a twist, as the case may be.

CalGold · June 22, 2005 7:27AM

I just replied to just about all of Andy's hypotheticals all at once. Does that make me guilty of aiding and abetting flooding the forum?

CG

TorinoCobra71 · June 22, 2005 7:36AM

They are nice if you did, say 3-4 a day, not 20-25............................

TorinoCobra71

mrearlygold · June 22, 2005 7:45AM

I think they are great. Educational and informative. And not self promoting. Kudos to Andy.

A Numismatists Numismatist

Tom

JRocco · June 22, 2005 9:04AM

<< They are nice if you did, say 3-4 a day, not 20-25............................

TorinoCobra71 >>

michael · June 22, 2005 12:12PM

all of andys threads where extremely educational and a learning experience to see the different viewpoints and much valuable information for me to ponder

i thought they where one of the best set of threads ever on these boards

makes you think

thanks andy!!!!!!

but with the way these boards have degenerated on coins

no good deed goes unpunished

Newmismatist · June 22, 2005 12:33PM

<< "Andy said that he ran them because he was preparing for a class that he is giving at the summer seminar."

I just want to know if it's a class on coins or business law? >>

If Andy's teaching a class on "Business Law" he may be in BIG trouble

I don't think he's passed the bar yet (well if it's one with Scotch, I know he hasn't passed it - he stops at every one!)

MrEureka · June 22, 2005 12:37PM

If Andy's teaching a class on "Business Law" he may be in BIG trouble

Ron - You're right. I need your help. Come join us as a guest Bull Session speaker and I'll buy you a Macallan 18 at the Broadmoor!

Newmismatist · June 22, 2005 12:40PM

<< If Andy's teaching a class on "Business Law" he may be in BIG trouble

Ron - You're right. I need your help. Come join us as a guest Bull Session speaker and I'll buy you a Macallan 18 at the Broadmoor! >>

Andy - THAT is tempting - when is it (the bull session)?

MrEureka · June 22, 2005 12:46PM

It's the week of July 3, the second session. I'm not sure exactly when the one-hour bull session takes place. Hopefully it won't matter and you can come for the whole week, take a course during the days, take the pattern seminar for a couple of nights, and drink scotch with the racoons at the Broadmoor the rest of the time.

fountainheadgold · June 22, 2005 12:47PM

I responded to almost all of Andy's threads, and found them much more interesting than most

The Hypothetical threads

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