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Do you guys think this 1961 proof Franklin would make the cameo designation at PCGS?

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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Probably not.

Russ, NCNE

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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Russ,

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    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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    I don't see why it would'nt.
    Whats up with the "E" and "P" on the reverse ?
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I'll buy that from you, so you won't have to worry about it........ image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    And whats going on between United and States?
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    FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    7 out of 10 times
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    << <i>And whats going on between United and States? >>



    This could be one that's painted to look cameo. image
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If posts around here about how tight PCGS is now on grading moderns are accurate; and/or if the coins has atificially frosted devices, I would say no.

    That said, however, I would gladly take the coin off your hands (if it is authentic and not artifically frosted) and put it in my Capital Proof Frankie Holder as an upgrade to the existing 1961. That way it will look just like its 1951-54, 56-58, 60, 62 & 63 brothers (which look like Russ's pictured 1961 and clearly are not CAMDCAM). What is your asking price (if you have one)? PM me if you would be open to selling it to me raw.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This could be one that's painted to look cameo. >>



    No.

    Russ, NCNE
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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    E & P on reverse????


    I'll tell you whats up on that ---it's called a DDR and it's "worth" $1,000+

    Good one Russ.
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    Have a nice day
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking at the posted question and photo again, I will take a 180 degree opposite stab at answering the question. My answer is still no it willnot make CAM. However, the reason for my second answer is different (and assumes the coin is not artifically frosted), since I would opine that the coin would DCAM (and thus not CAM).

    If it DCAM's and recieves a 67 or higher grade, I bet you could sell it to R&I Coins for $250.00 and then see it marketed for more than the current $3,000.00 plus sales prices on smoe 1964 AH DCAM proofs.

    What say you Russ, oh learned one.
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    If you send them in now, you'll know someday. image
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    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll tell you whats up on that ---it's called a DDR and it's "worth" $1,000+ >>



    Actually, if it were a DDR that looked like this one, $1000 wouldn't even buy a day pass to get in to the auction when it sold.

    It's reflection off the mirrors.

    Russ, NCNE
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    cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Are those Breaks in the frost on Frankie's shirt or it is just shadows from the lighting?
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still waiting oh learned one for a little education on the topic of cameos.

    BTW, please favor us with information about the coin (i.e. is it yours?; and if so the when, where, who and how much of your acquistion and your plans for the coin). Thanks, SanctionII.
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you guys think this 1961 proof Franklin would make the cameo designation at PCGS? >>

    No, but I do believe it would DCAM at PCGS.image
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    The cam question was rhetorical. image
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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    I think it will go comeo. Nice contrast if the picture is accurate. I guess PR67 cam


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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin


    My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
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    razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    Very, very nice, Russ! If it doesn't make cameo, something's wrong @ PCGS. image



    Tom
    What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?
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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin Russ
    To my eye, it is a lock cameo, probably a dcam. Not the big DDR (as you know) but the other three DDR's have slight doubling of EPU.

    If it doesn't cam - I'll be happy to buy it from you. image

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ, we still have not heard "the rest of the story".

    Details, details, we want details and your answer to the original question you asked.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, we still have not heard "the rest of the story".

    Details, details, we want details and your answer to the original question you asked. >>



    There really is no "rest of the story". It's a strong cameo plus coin grading PR67 to PR68. My question was facetious.

    Russ, NCNE
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    MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743
    Russ,
    Nice coin. You are such a tease!image
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, and I also think that would make a great new icon pic for you Russ------image
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"

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