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mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
Bush Returning Funds From Coin Dealer

CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush is returning $4,000 in campaign contributions from an Ohio coin dealer who is the subject of state and federal investigations, the White House said Friday.

Tom Noe, who is from suburban Toledo, is under investigation for his handling of $55 million the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation gave to him to invest in rare coins. Noe's lawyer has reported that $10 million to $12 million is missing.

"I think that there are some serious allegations that have been raised against this individual," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said in Texas while Bush spent time at his ranch.

"They have raised concerns with people in Ohio. They have raised concerns with the White House. And the president felt it was the right thing to return those contributions that came directly from him," McClellan said.

Aaron McLear, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said Thursday that the $2,000 donated by Noe to the RNC will be given to charity. McLear added that Bush has no immediate plans to return more than $100,000 Noe raised for the Bush-Cheney campaign last year.

"Those are from other individuals," McClellan said. "In the past, I think, the campaign — if you'll go back and look — has returned contributions from individuals that maybe have been convicted of crimes, and so forth."

Ohio Gov. Bob Taft, three other statewide officeholders, several House lawmakers and Sen. Mike DeWine (news, bio, voting record) also said they were giving up campaign contributions from Noe totaling nearly $60,000. Many of the officials designated charities or a workers' compensation fund to receive the money.

Meanwhile, a former governor's aide has told federal authorities that he gave $2,000 to Bush's re-election campaign at the urging of Noe and was later reimbursed by the coin dealer, a newspaper reported Friday.

H. Douglas Talbott appeared this week before a federal grand jury in Toledo that is looking into whether Noe, who headed the Bush-Cheney campaign in northwest Ohio, skirted campaign finance laws by giving others money to donate, according to a report published in The Plain Dealer in Cleveland.

Noe also contributed $10,000 to a fund supporting California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's legislative priorities. "Allegations about Mr. Noe became public a year after we accepted his contribution," Marty Wilson, executive director of the fund, said Friday, and Schwarzenegger has no plans to return the donation.

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand the "gesture" but let's face it, the donations were used to get these people elected. Now that they are elected the deed is done. So what if you give the money back?

    roadrunner
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    maybe he should know his partner before he climbs in bed!!!!!!!!!!

    the ball of yarn is starting to unravel...........................
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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    Give me a break, a lousy $4,000 from an insignificant individual. Let's talk about the $24 million to John Kerry from George Soros.
    USAF vet 1951-59
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    BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    It underlies the big problem...this president caters to crooks and cads.
    "Have a nice day!"
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    It's hard to resist, isn't it, Glenn? image
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    BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    Ah...bush's two lap dogs rush into the fray with small fangs bared.
    "Have a nice day!"
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    this isn't the open forum
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    It will be there soon enough.
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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Put this into off topic please.image
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    careful....and John Kerry isn't a big time crook? ooppsss..l forgot no mixing coins and politics...GO BUSH!!!!! A man who did NOT flench!!!!

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Glenn,

    That's an interesting image. I had no idea blackhawk was a liar.

    Russ, NCNE
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blackhwak, don't worry, stay the course. Just because we haven't seen the full effect of the fallout from Bush's policies doesn't mean they aren't coming. The next 5-10 years will be very difficult and much of it will have come from Bush's misguided economic and financial policies....in particular the action of the FED. Bush still has a few more years to serve out before anyone can declare Blackhawk wrong. Glenn, please keep that old post handy so you can put it up again before January 2009.

    Had Noe been responsible for giving say $1 MILL to the presidential campaign.....you know darn well that would not have been given back. This small amount was just chump change to the 'pubs.

    It underlies the big problem...this president caters to crooks and cads.

    On this point Blackhawk I might disagree. It could also mean that crooks and cads cater to the President. Think about it. image

    roadrunner
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    << <i>Glenn,

    That's an interesting image. I had no idea blackhawk was a liar.

    Russ, NCNE >>



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    kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017


    << <i> The next 5-10 years will be very difficult and much of it will have come from Bush's misguided economic and financial policies....in particular the action of the FED.


    roadrunner >>



    Every President has fallout after their administartion ends. Look at Clintons wondeful years. Yeah it was a great economy but now we are dealing with Terrorism which he really dropped the ball on. This is his 5-10 years right now.

    Cameron Kiefer
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bush Sr. and Clinton helped to set up GW in many ways. However GW is continuing to make things worse. From taking away freedoms, out of control spending and credit creation (the biggest in the history of the nation....from a 'pub no less), and extending our finances to the limits by fighting overseas, he has truly set us up for one big fall in the near future. It may not fall directly on his watch but he will get as much of the credit as Clinton does. The increase in the current account deficit has continued to go exponential under his watch and continues to expand. Sure, Clinton started this from 1998-2000 but GW is not helping. He is making no progress towards tackling these deficits. The current account deficit was steady at around -$100 billion until 1998. Then all he11 broke loose. The $400 BILL deficit that Clinton handed GW will soon hit $800-900 BILL at current rates. Isn't the president supposed to lead? See the attached link to view chart.

    Bud Conrad article on deficits

    And by the way, this is an excellent article on the various deficits.
    ****At least look at the charts, they are mind blowing. ****

    Looks like we've had 4 years of fallout so far since the last president left. How much longer should a fallout last after swapping presidents? I would conjecture we have 4 more years of fallouts until the next president takes over. Whether we address these issues after 2009 remains to be seen. It will be rising deficits as usual until 2009. Bottom line is that electorate is no longer conditioned to think anything but good things with our economy.
    No one thinks that any pre-1982 financial/economic history could ever repeat. In one sense that is true since dropping the gold standard in the 1970's. The world only has 34 years of pure-fiat history. That's very little history to fall back on.

    roadrunner
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    interesting and typical pointless publicity stunt by bush and his administration to appear to distance himself from the bad guys by returning dirty money..whos kidding who bush..not 100% of americans are dumb farm animals you know..and see right through your little pr schemes

    i cant recall if bush ever returned all the campaign funds from ken lay and enron though..i guess that may have been too much money to give back for a pr stunt image
    when judgement day comes..
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    << <i>Glenn,

    That's an interesting image. >>



    should've been saved as a GIF
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    elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414
    Since when has the Pres. been able to spend our money???

    I was under the impression it was Congressimage
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭


    << <i>interesting and typical pointless publicity stunt by bush and his administration to appear to distance himself from the bad guys by returning dirty money..whos kidding who bush..not 100% of americans are dumb farm animals you know..and see right through your little pr schemes

    i cant recall if bush ever returned all the campaign funds from ken lay and enron though..i guess that may have been too much money to give back for a pr stunt image >>


    Geez, it's bad when Bush returns the donations, it's bad when he keeps them. image
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is congress that spends it. But the FED and Treasury Secretary help to create it. And those belong to Bush. The FED's crazy low interest scheme has supercharged the credit markets and sent us into severe debt. This is under Bush's control in many ways. Some subtle and some not.

    With a republican held congress and a republican president, EVERY spending bill went through from 2001-2004. He didn't veto even one. Bush has much to do with what is going on. Taking on a war in Iraq (soon to add Iran) has added more to the deficits, solely Bush's idea. Same for the war on "terrorism." The creation of the Homeland Security Branch and the continued growth of govt (one of the few sectors in the "economy" that is growing....lol) Bush deserves much of the credit plus he isn't doing anything except to make it worse. Kerry may have done no better, but for now, it's GW's dance and "you have to dance with the one you brung" (S. Snead).

    Geez, it's bad when Bush returns the donations, it's bad when he keeps them. .........exactly....Bush is just plain bad.

    roadrunner
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    << <i>With a republican held congress and a republican president, EVERY spending bill went through from 2001-2004. He didn't veto even one. Bush has much to do with what is going on. >>




    At least he isn't spending the money on welfare programsimage
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course Bush is continuing to increase the spending to welfare programs. Nothing got axed in his first term. "No child (program) left behind." (lol)

    I missed the news from this last week where Arthur Anderson as a firm had the previous Enron ruling overturned unanimously by the US Supreme Court.


    roadrunner
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    antiwar.comimage I'm sure they're REALLY objective.
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    and I suppose we'd be SO much better off if John F'N Kerry had "reported for duty".

    that's a LAUGH.
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    << <i>and I suppose we'd be SO much better off if John F'N Kerry had "reported for duty".

    that's a LAUGH. >>



    At least then the world would have agreed to us doing smoethingimage
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    Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    Well, Noe has just had his fate sealed. When the commielib press realizes there is a connection between Noe and the Bush campaign he will fall victim to the guilty before proven innocent mantra of everyone even remotely connected to Bush.

    Noe may indeed be guilty of something, but at this point it doesn't matter.


    When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.

    Thomas Paine
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    yes, part of his hundreds of PLANS.

    Plans that he could never explain but were also inexplicably never on his website as he preached.

    if that's the best the Dems got, they better shove a booze bottle up Teddy Kennedy's arse for an IV and get him primed for 'O8.
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    << <i>if that's the best the Dems got, they better shove a booze bottle up Teddy Kennedy's arse for an IV and get him primed for 'O8. >>



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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    I can see the slogans now....


    Chappaquiddick was a splash.....
    Man those times were great.

    Gimme tons of liberal cash....
    and I'll be your puppet in '08.


    Act now.....contribute 2,000 and get 3 free swimming lessons! contribute 10,000 or more and you will receive advice on how to get your butt out of any jam, including murder! Free neckbrace for the first 100 contributors.
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    << <i>I can see the slogans now....


    Chappaquiddick was a splash.....
    Man those times were great.

    Gimme tons of liberal cash....
    So I can be your puppet in '08. >>



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    clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615
    OT move to open fourm
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    << <i>I can see the slogans now....


    Chappaquiddick was a splash.....
    Man those times were great.

    Gimme tons of liberal cash....
    and I'll be your puppet in '08.


    Act now.....contribute 2,000 and get 3 free swimming lessons! contribute 10,000 or more and you will receive advice on how to get your butt out of any jam, including murder! Free neckbrace for the first 100 contributors. >>



    ROFLAOimage
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's something about not taking anything seriously from a talking "Burger King" puppet head.

    roadrunner
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    yeah, I know just how John Kerry feels.
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OT move to open fourm >>


    Heck, we have enough of this stuff over there.
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    BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    Can it you bozos and let the thread drop before you start crying that another of your friends has been booted.
    "Have a nice day!"
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can it you bozos and let the thread drop before you start crying that another of your friends has been booted. >>




    Can you please state your comment in English so we bozos know what the hell you are trying to say?
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and I suppose we'd be SO much better off if John F'N Kerry had "reported for duty".

    it's impossible to speculate on what might have been, better to just stick with what is. like a friend of mine says, "If my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle."
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
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