Two Cent Collectors

2Cent · May 27, 2005 1:10PM

How many collectors of Two Cents are there? By that, I mean collectors who are trying to get a complete set -- in Good or in MS66 Red is of little consequence -- I just wonder how many are out there vying for a complete set. From my vantage, it would seem that the lowly Two Cent is one of only three coins which do not bear the likeness of a poltician or Liberty (Native Americans excepted). Those three would be the Two Cent, the silver Trime, and the Shield Nickel. (I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong.) I sure wish there was a forum or niche club for those of us who have the copper piece on our brains.

John

Russ · May 27, 2005 1:14PM

Did somebody mention Two Cent Pieces?

Russ, NCNE

F117ASR · May 27, 2005 1:18PM

I thought you sold off your two cent collection Russ. Nice though. But they wouldn't go cam.

hedgehog847 · May 27, 2005 1:21PM

Nice, Russ!

RickMilauskas · May 27, 2005 1:21PM

Sheeeze.....Russ is always pullin' something out of his butt!!

What other coins does he have in his magical sack?

By the way--nice two cent pieces Russ.

Russ · May 27, 2005 1:22PM

<< I thought you sold off your two cent collection Russ. >>

I did, but I still own the images.

Russ, NCNE

F117ASR · May 27, 2005 1:23PM

Why did you sell? Did you slab them yourself or buy them slabbed?

sellsatan · May 27, 2005 1:23PM

Just check out Russ's website. He's got a ridiculous quantity of nice coins.

WWW · May 27, 2005 1:24PM

I like them very much in proof condition and wish that I could afford more of them.

Russ · May 27, 2005 1:27PM

<< Why did you sell? Did you slab them yourself or buy them slabbed? >>

$

Bought them slabbed, but a couple of them ended up in different, higher graded slabs than their originals.

Russ, NCNE

Prethen · May 27, 2005 1:29PM

OK...here's one of my fav's!

2Cent · May 27, 2005 1:39PM

I've never posted a picture, so please do not fret if this is less than stellar, or if it fails to upload.

John

WACoinGuy · May 27, 2005 2:19PM

I've got a collection in VF-XF quality. I started it as a kid, and once I got past the 1864 and 1865 it was very slow going getting the rest. Over the years I managed to get all of them except the 1872 -- which I finally bought raw on E-Bay back in 2000. It's a really gorgeous coin and now resides in a PCGS XF-40 holder.

Funny, I was just thinking about my 1872 two center just a few minutes ago before I saw this thread...

Conder101 · May 27, 2005 7:01PM

I've had a set 1863 - 1872 for quite some time.

DHeath · May 27, 2005 9:58PM

I've never seen any of the 63 small motto patterns or the lg.motto proof. That would be a fun way to complete a set.

Sunnywood · May 27, 2005 10:20PM

DHeath, the 1863 pattern in the same design as the regular issue (J-316) is actually a Large Motto piece. That, combined with the hub state (the "D" in GOD is slightly broken, if I remember correctly, and it is therefore a later hub state than any 1864 proof) proves that J-316 is actually a backdated fantasy piece, just like the 1865 shield nickels.

When I collected proof two cents, I included J-316 in the collection. After all, it is a two cent piece with the adopted design. It should be collected as part of the series, just like 1856 flying eagle cents, 1858 Indian cents, 1882 Liberty nickels, and 1865 shield nickels. These all exist struck in the exact adopted design. Due to their exclusion from the Redbook, the 1858 Indian cent, 1882 Lib nickel and 1863 two cents remain in obscurity. By the way, the J-312 two cents is a much more common pattern, but is not the exact adopted reverse of the regular issues.

My proof two cents, including the J-316 PCGS PR65RD, were sold by ANR in October 2000. I asked John Pack and QDB if they would include the 1863 J-316 with the other pieces in the Two Cents portion of the catalog, rather than burying it with the patterns. They were happy to oblige. Unfortunately, as with my other coins, I sold too soon !!!!! The coin would be worth two to three times that today ....

Funnily enough, the four issues mentioned above - dated one year before their respective designs were officially issued - do not get nearly as much respect as the issues dated one year AFTER their respective designs were retired: 1913 Lib nickel, 1804 dollar, and 1885 trade dollar.

Best,
Sunnywood

majorbigtime · May 27, 2005 11:30PM

<< 

Funny, I was just thinking about my 1872 two center just a few minutes ago before I saw this thread... >>

Me too. My '72 is a top pop MS56RD in a 1st gen PCGS holder, and is a highlight of my collection. I believe one sold for about $22k several years ago.

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Oops, I'm a lousy typist--it's an MS66RD

ldhair · May 28, 2005 12:29AM

<< 

<< 

Funny, I was just thinking about my 1872 two center just a few minutes ago before I saw this thread... >>

Me too. My '72 is a top pop MS56RD in a 1st gen PCGS holder, and is a highlight of my collection. I believe one sold for about $22k several years ago. >>

I'm sure you are thinking 66RD.
What a cool coin to own.
If you get a chance please post a pic.

Russ · May 28, 2005 2:21AM

<< I'm sure you are thinking 66RD.
What a cool coin to own.
If you get a chance please post a pic. >>

Did somebody ask for a pic of an 1872 MS66RD?

Courtesy Mike Printz

Mike was nice enough to share some fabulous images with me.

Russ, NCNE

DHeath · May 28, 2005 2:37AM

Sunnywood, thanks.

sonofagunk · May 28, 2005 2:52AM

well someone just outbid me on Heritage for the 1872 AU that would have finsihed my set. Hope this thread did not have anything to do with it

mgoodm3 · May 28, 2005 2:54AM

They're copper. I like copper. Only have one for the moment.

Robgetty · May 28, 2005 2:54AM

I did it backwards: started with the 1872 and then added the others.

2 cent pieces are fun.

fullerfun4 · May 28, 2005 3:06AM

I have a run of mint state 2 centers except for the 1864 small date (XF) and the 1873 proof only. Ireally like them. because they are so arcane and historical. Too bad they were produced for such a short period of time.

Last year at the ANA Summer Seminar I took the Advanced Grading and Problem Coins Class. I brought a raw 1870 2 cent that I bought as an MS63RB. I thought it was a nice coin. One of the instructors who happened to be an NGC grader offered to let each student send in one coin each to NGC for a free overnight grading. I took out the 1870 and asked him and another instructor (who happened to be a PCGS grader) what they thought of the coin. Both said that it would body bag because of recoloring. I sent in the coin anyway because I thought it was a nice coin (and I didn't have a better coin to send in with me at the time). The coin came back graded by NGC MS63RB.
I guess the moral of the story is that grading is just an opinion, but I was glad that the on duty graders at NGC had a different opinion.
Regards
Gary

jcping · May 28, 2005 3:23AM

I am working on my RedBrown two cent set for more than five years. I still need one coin to complete my set and then register it

michael · May 28, 2005 5:46AM

xbob · May 28, 2005 5:58AM

I only have one. I'm still learning with my lighting so the pic isn't great. There is a faint A at the end of AMERICA that I'm guessing is the result of a weak strike. (?) It's not even visible on my photo.

09sVDB · May 28, 2005 9:11AM

Not me anymore. I just sold my last one.

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