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How many own a 1909-S VDB Lincoln?

I have had a few over the years, but none right now.

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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    OT

    And its been 3 days!
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Thread title at the top of the post isn't the same as the one listed on the main page.

    Got edited. No I don't own one.
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    I'll get him down.

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    ERER Posts: 7,345
    Never have, none now, and never will.
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    Never owned one....thinkm they are pricey...but I would like to purchase one over the next year or so image
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    NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never had the desire to own one.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    You're asking how many rolls I have? I'll never tell.



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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    Have this in my Lincoln Dansco. Raw VF35.

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I just traded one away.
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    Me. A PCGS graded XF45.
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    TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207
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    mtnmanmtnman Posts: 576 ✭✭✭✭
    I have one in my album that grades F15.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its not that rare a coin and had a high suvival rate. I would estimate the survival rate at close to a million. Note: I'm including all the fakes that are in peoples collections unknown to the owners.image

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got two, one is raw, VF, the other is PCGS MS 63 R&B

    WS
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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    Zero in the collection now.

    I have owned 2 in the past. One was a nice PCGS 63 RB and the other was a PCGS 63 Red.

    Never could quite step up to the next level.

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    etexmike
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got one in my boyhood set of Lincoln cents. It was the last coin I needed to complete set. I bought it in 1980 when I was 31, so my childhood lasted for a long time. image
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    Currently have an XF
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    jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508
    I'm on my second one. . .
    Jeff

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    Over-rated, over-priced.
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    STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    I own 4 of them.Two in ms 66 red and two finer.


    Stewart
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I had three about a month ago. I'm down to one now.

    David

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Over-rated, over-priced. >>



    According to a post from yesterday, somebody just paid $92,000.00 for one in MS-67, Red. image

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    partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    I got a 63 bn , got it for my birthday in 1984. Bought it as AU, now in a PCGS MS63bn holder. Got lucky, will never leave the collection.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just got my 1909-S-VDB back from NGC. In 1980 it was an ANACS papers VF-20. Now it's an NGC EF-45. image Now that's progress! image

    Personally I graded the coin VF-30.
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    << <i>I own 4 of them.Two in ms 66 red and two finer.


    Stewart >>


    Graded by whom? Got any pics?
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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have three, a F15, an AU55 and my PCGS MS64RB.

    Chris
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Over-rated, over-priced. >>

    Since your name is Lincolnfreak, I wonder if this was made in jest? If not, I would have to argue that point with you. There appear to be an awful lot of people that collect coins, that have heard of the 09-sVDB since childhood, and drempt about one since childhood. This means when they get to that point in life when they can actually plop down a bankroll and become proud owner of a dream coin, they will and do.

    That hardly seems over-rated. Seems more like the things that dreams are made of.

    And over-priced? Simple supply and demand. There are a lot of 09-sVDB coins out there, but apparently there are more collectors that dream of owning one (or more).

    It's a cool coin, that has a legitimate place in the hearts of many collectors.
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    Looking @ the photos of the three depicted in this thread so far (jcarney, lincolncentman, tumuss), it looks like the "S" is in a different position on all three pieces. I'm no expert, but isn't that a little strange??image
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    GoYankeesGoYankees Posts: 1,025


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    << <i>Over-rated, over-priced. >>

    Since your name is Lincolnfreak, I wonder if this was made in jest? If not, I would have to argue that point with you. There appear to be an awful lot of people that collect coins, that have heard of the 09-sVDB since childhood, and drempt about one since childhood. This means when they get to that point in life when they can actually plop down a bankroll and become proud owner of a dream coin, they will and do.

    That hardly seems over-rated. Seems more like the things that dreams are made of.

    And over-priced? Simple supply and demand. There are a lot of 09-sVDB coins out there, but apparently there are more collectors that dream of owning one (or more).

    It's a cool coin, that has a legitimate place in the hearts of many collectors. >>



    LanLord...

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    BTW I have a PCGS VF35 that I bought raw as a VF30 in 2001. I wanted one since the 1970s. image
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    I have one in my whitman album that I bought just a couple of months ago. I cracked it out it's ANACS F15 holder to finally fill the last hole in my circulated Lincoln cent album that I started about 30 years ago. I'm very glad that I finally finished the set but a little resentful that they cost as much as they do.
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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I Own 2. One is a F-12. The newer one is VF. I like them both. They're sooo nice and don't have any serious ticks or gouges. I've had them for about three years. Paid 500 something for each.

    The F-12 is a Die 4. The VF is a die 3.

    Both are raw.

    Pete
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    MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 816 ✭✭✭
    MS-64RD and an AU at PCGS now.
    Mark
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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>That hardly seems over-rated. Seems more like the things that dreams are made of. >>



    << <i>And over-priced? Simple supply and demand. There are a lot of 09-sVDB coins out there, but apparently there are more collectors that dream of owning one (or more). >>



    Lanlord, great post...my feelings exactly.



    << <i>it looks like the "S" is in a different position on all three pieces. I'm no expert, but isn't that a little strange?? >>



    nankraut, there were several obverse dies used for the 1909S VDB. I forget exactly how many, but this would account for the MM position variation.
    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin


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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I have one. It matches LincolnCentMan's coin. 65BN with a lot of red still showing through.
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    mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    only one....but its a ms-70!image
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looking @ the photos of the three depicted in this thread so far (jcarney, lincolncentman, tumuss), it looks like the "S" is in a different position on all three pieces. I'm no expert, but isn't that a little strange??image >>




    I believe that there Are 3 different positions for that MM if I'm not wrong.


    I have a PCGS MS63RB one and have been considering listing it on Sleazebay.
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    09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    PCGS AU55.
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64RD. Cracked it out of an old ANACS 64 RD I'd purchased for $700. Sent it along with the 22 "no D" Strong and 14-D as 3 of my 4 freebies to PCGS. Came back 64RD. The 22 No D upgraded from ANACS VF35 to PCGS XF40, and the 14-D was ANACS VF35 and made XF40. It was a good day . .

    4 different dies on the S-VDB. Best reference is the out-of-print "Counterfeit Detection" reprint from the Numismatist (Vol. II) 1988. Pages 42 and 43 have superb photos of the 4 positions of the mintmarks as well as all diagnostics for the 4 genuine dies.

    I have seen several threads indicating the S-VDB is overrated. Perhaps . . . but it is overrated by thousands of collectors who clamor for one. Seems like a textbook definition of rarity as a function of supply and demand?

    DRUNNER
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    No, my post was not made in jest. JMHO. You've explained your viewpoint very nicely, I just don't feel the same way. I probably should not have stated that it is over-rated. I certainly agree with your contention that many collectors consider it "special" among coins. I do feel that it is over-priced relative to availability. Not trying to ruffle any feathers as I am new to the boards.image
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    Needed one to fill a book, Dealer had one in AG for $350.00 said no thanks, still looking...image
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never owned one of the things and don't have any plans to.
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    morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293
    Well if I can find a 1909-S VDB in F-2 to go with my F-2 1932D Washington quater (for less than $100), then I'll buy.
    morgannut2
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every auction there is at least 6 for sale.

    Six?

    I remember counting 09-S VDBs in last year's Heritage ANA catalog. There were 26 for auction!
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    I have a nice PCGS VF35.
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    KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Many years ago I bought one from a guy who had pulled it out of the Paducah Ky Coca-Cola plant incoming change bags. I had it graded as legit by ANACS, back in the days when the ANACS certs had photos but no grades. I sold it a few years later. It was a nice pretty light brown F or VF image As is typical, I now wish I had that coin in my collection.

    Yes, they are often available and the price is too high. Even so, I'm still semi looking for a nice gem. DLRC had a 66 a few months ago. I thought about going for it but it sold before I could make up my mind image

    The 09 S VDB is classic... capitol C classic!

    KJ

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    I don't own one, but have a friend who has two and sent them in for grading for him. Both came back one grade higher than he bought them for some years ago. I'm hoping he has a third one just hanging around that I can make payments on... and I don't even collect Lincolns! I guess it's just the whole-key-date-mystery-I-want-one thing. And knowing they'll almost certainly keep their value/appeal makes it more interesting!

    Michael
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    headsplitter2headsplitter2 Posts: 469 ✭✭✭
    Wished I had 1 in any condition. I'd be be happy with a ag3.
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    merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    I own 1 in a PCGS AU55 BN holder.It is a beauty IMHO very even in color without spots.
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