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dan1ecudan1ecu Posts: 1,573
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Sometimes if a coin is in an older slab, or if there's a spot, or if there's a hit, it is noted for "the sake of accuracy" in the description.

Does reading this give you the impression that the grade on the holder doesn't speak for itself (even if the comment really IS made for the sake of accuracy)?

Dan
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    ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    For the sake of accuracy and completeness, those big gouges are mentioned for pedigree purpose.image
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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    No, it seems like something Bill Jones would state.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes. Usually its a problem and they are trying to downplay it.

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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Sounds like an honest seller who wants to ensure no suprises when the coin is recieved by their Customers. If you have good pictures and honest descriptions of the coin should be no problems.
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    LikesCentsLikesCents Posts: 56
    It makes me think the problem is so bad or obvious, even a non coin person would spot it.
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I occasionally use that very expression for descriptions of coins on my website. It has nothing to do with the coins being sub-par for the assigned grades, however.

    I am most likely to use "for the sake of accuracy" when particular flaws/imperfections don't show at all in the images or are not as obvious in the images as in person.
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    sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    I use the term often and it has nothing to do with the quality of the coin.

    I just don't want the person who bought it complaining that the coin pictured is the actual coin they received.
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    solidsolid Posts: 2,975
    It can also be used to point out a particular flaw that some people simply won't
    accept with their coins, such as carbon spots or prints. These may be perfectly
    in line with the assigned grade, but it's better to point out such flaws than to
    have to take a return on the coin.

    Ken
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,869 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No, it seems like something Bill Jones would state. >>



    Gee, it's nice to get mentioned. image

    Seriously most of the dealers I have known who used that phrase used it to note something that did not amount to much except for the ultra fussy members of the numismatic community who expect a circulated coin to be perfect. You can expect to find something on virtually any coin with your naked eye unless you are buying coins in MS or PR-66 or better.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I consider it an attempt at honesty. Most descriptions would say something like "dove gray surfaces" or "subdued luster" when, for the sake of accuracy, the coin has been overly dipped and is dull.

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    There's nothing wrong with the phrase. I sometimes use it when a flaw doesn't show well in the images.

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    magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Personally, I don't listen much to who says what with "sell speak" - I question the coin to start with!

    Billy
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It usually means the seller is telling you about a problem in advance that he suspects could cause a return if not noted.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I always worry about that when the coin is very high grade and it is noted. Sometimes I think what is noted is insignificant, though.
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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's often a way of noting the coin's worst flaw and letting a prospective buyer know that if they won't accept that sort of thing, then this coin is not for them. Often has to do with issues that aren't quite bad enough to warrant calling the coin damaged, but make it also not quite a perfect, no-problem example for the grade.

    i.e. XF45, small rim bump -or-

    VF30, with a minor scratch in the right obverse field,

    Especially where the thing being noted isn't clearly visible in the picture, I appreciate the heads-up. Leads to more informed decision making.




    mirabela

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