HOLY CRAP! Have these people gone NUTS!!! MARTY SPENDS ALMOST $180 on a 1964 proof set!

Russ · May 3, 2005 2:32AM

1964 proof set at $100 so far, and five days to go!

I think it'll hit $250. Unless Doops comes along, then more like $500.

Russ, NCNE

mgoodm3 · May 3, 2005 2:34AM

What do you think the Kennedy will grade?

fishcooker · May 3, 2005 2:35AM

gotta run wit the big dogs!

weresteve · May 3, 2005 2:37AM

<< What do you think the Kennedy will grade? >>

My guesstimate ... PR67CAM minimum ... based on the small photo ... probably $250 - $300 on the set.

Steve

Russ · May 3, 2005 2:37AM

<< What do you think the Kennedy will grade? >>

Impossible to tell from an image. Could be a hairlined dog. But, that obverse is off the charts; probably within the first five strikes off a fresh die. The reverse doesn't appear nearly as strong, but is likely also DCAM.

Russ, NCNE

Heywood · May 3, 2005 2:38AM

Reverse looks no more than CAM

is it AH?

Guess is MMs Bid + 0.99

Steve27 · May 3, 2005 2:39AM

It's already way overbid, just look at the reverses (the half isn't a DCAM). I'll say $111.11

Russ · May 3, 2005 2:40AM

<< is it AH? >>

Nope. If it was, I'd have offered the seller a hell of a lot more than I did when I eMailed him 18 minutes after he listed it.

Russ, NCNE

topstuf · May 3, 2005 2:41AM

How long til they discount sets without the mint seal?

F117ASR · May 3, 2005 2:41AM

Wow! Maybe I should put up my DCAM set.

SanctionII · May 3, 2005 3:21AM

Other than 2 sets in 6+ years of looking, how come the 1964 proof sets I look through at local shops and at shows do not contain a Kennedy half that looks like the one pictured in this thread?

I bet the half looks even better out of the mint cello.

I do not know what the winning bid will be but I would think it would go far above $300.00 with all of number of persons who troll for DCAM coins. I would gladly pay $10.00-$15.00 for it at a local shop.

Russ · May 3, 2005 3:29AM

<< I would gladly pay $10.00-$15.00 for it at a local shop. >>

You think?

Russ, NCNE

Steve27 · May 3, 2005 3:32AM

"how come the 1964 proof sets I look through at local shops and at shows do not contain a Kennedy half that looks like the one pictured in this thread?"

Because Russ and Marty got there first.

lilmint · May 3, 2005 3:35AM

I think somebody is going to be disappointed when it comes back CAM. Look at the shield on the reverse, it's not fully frosted the way I like to see them. But, it will go for stupid money. $300+ is my guess.

fishcooker · May 3, 2005 3:40AM

its a lock 68 DACM werth $1400!

PhillyJoe · May 3, 2005 3:55AM

The obverse on that half rates a 10 out of 10 on the modern crap Dcam meter. Doops has his snipeware on lock-n-load at this moment.
Like everyone else, if it looks this good through 40 year old cellophane, wow!

$325.

Joe

eyoung429 · May 3, 2005 3:58AM

With you bidding on it? Russ.....I don't have enough for that bad boy.....I do think it will go higher than 68cam though......$500 is not a long shot at all.

Russ · May 3, 2005 4:00AM

<< With you bidding on it? Russ..... >>

Nope. It's already at more than I offered the seller.

Russ, NCNE

SanctionII · May 3, 2005 4:01AM

Russ, my statement of my willingness to buy the set for "$10.00-$15.00 at a local shop" was a meager attempt to state the obvious.

Was it obvious?

SanctionII · May 3, 2005 7:02AM

Anyone else want to play Carnack and venture a guess?

If this thread keeps going until the end of the auction, I wonder how many guesses will be posted with less than 5 seconds to go?

eagle7 · May 3, 2005 7:09AM

It will go for less than 200 and the winner will be disappointed. This coin is not a DCAM. The reverse is too light. JMHO.

MadMarty · May 3, 2005 7:14AM

I'll take Reyaler for $250 Alex...

100proof1957 · May 3, 2005 7:27AM

that Kenny is no DCAM !

The rest is modern crap !

LeeG · May 3, 2005 7:31AM

Nice looking set that sell's at $195.

PhillyJoe · May 3, 2005 7:33AM

Nothing like advertising a 1964 proof set in a category titled "1965-1998" to zero in on your target audience.

Joe

Myqqy · May 3, 2005 9:08AM

It looks like Marty put his bid down too quickly- the high bidder is one of those "nibblers"........

RGL · May 3, 2005 10:07AM

Correct that the obverse is off the charts, the reverse? I need bigger pix, could only CAM ... Marty was topped at $100 ... where's doops?

SanctionII · May 3, 2005 10:59AM

Another thread posted today covers the topic of how absurdly, nay stupidly tight PCGS is on grading at this time.

If that is so, how would all of you react if PCGS graded the pictured 1964 Kennedy half as not even being a CAM (do the the weakness of the frost on the reverse) and simply a brilliant proof?

coinkat · May 3, 2005 11:07AM

The Kennedy is nice but is it the only coin there worthy of a serious look? I do not buy and slab Proof coins so take what I say with a grain of salt. I think it will go for $326.89. We can all laugh together in 5 days but perhaps someone else will have the last laugh.

SanctionII · May 4, 2005 8:24AM

TTT, 30 hours have passed since this thread was originally posted. At that time there were only 7 bids. 30 hours later there are still only 7 bids.

What gives? Is it common on E-Bay to have some bidding when a new 7 day auction is listed, followed by days of no bids at all, followed by a 1 minute hyperbidding war between highly trained, battle tested E-Bay Coin Commandos/Numismatic Warriors utilizing the latest automated sniping technology to achieve victory?

I have never participated in E-Bay and would like to gain insight from those of you who have.

Russ · May 4, 2005 8:31AM

<< Is it common on E-Bay to have some bidding when a new 7 day auction is listed, followed by days of no bids at all, followed by a 1 minute hyperbidding war >>

Yep.

Russ, NCNE

Coinhusker1 · May 4, 2005 8:39AM

All the talk on this thread about the reverse not going DCAM may actually DECREASE the final hammer.

Man, the frost is just dripping off the obverse though. Might be worth it to buy and keep it raw as a showpiece!

wjd283 · May 4, 2005 9:08AM

From what I've read here about PCGS of late the reverse probably would'nt even cam.

I don't think there is a major amount of profit going to be made by the buyer.

If it's already higher than Russ offered,I'd stay away.

JMO.

ss350camaro · May 4, 2005 9:20AM

Too bad he doesn't post the questions and answers. I bet he's heard some doosies !

relayer · May 4, 2005 11:14AM

<< I'll take Reyaler for $250 Alex... >>

I bet if you tip it at the right angle in the right light, you can make the black part of the shield go away, making it a Cameo-like

I bet I could get that in a PR67 holder

mozin · May 4, 2005 12:58PM

You guys have a lot better take on the value of this lot than I do but I would have no problem offering 91 cents for it if delivery was included.

Coin Finder · May 4, 2005 3:35PM

Wouldnt PCGS or NGC need both obverse and reverse to have DCAM to be designated as such even CAM for that matter.

One side only just would not get it.

TBig

northcoin · May 4, 2005 7:51PM

Looks like 91 cents unless the buyer is willing to pay for the little slug too.

SanctionII · May 5, 2005 5:18AM

TTT, once again just to keep the thread in front of everyone. A little over three days to go and the bids now total 8 in number. Anyone else care to take a stab at predicting the winning bid amount at this time (I think it will top $300.00), or are you simply planning on waiting to post your prediction until the last minute of the auction?

SanctionII · May 6, 2005 9:57AM

TTT, once again to keep this thread alive.

About 49 hours to go and still only 8 bids. What a treat to observe the progress of a 7 day auction. It appears that a few bids are placed early and then not much action for days. If the auction is not prematurely terminated, I would be shocked if there is not a flurry of bidding that takes place at the end of the auction.

Anyone care to guess how long before the auction expires that a bidding war starts and how many bids will be placed during the war? My guess is that bidding will start 5 minutes before the end and that at least 18 bids will be placed.

P.S. If anyone on the forum places the high bid on the coin, please favor us with a picture of the half, front and back, out of the cello. Thanks.

Russ · May 6, 2005 10:04AM

HMM...I may have to goose this thing to make sure it gets to my prediction of $250.

Russ, NCNE

SanctionII · May 7, 2005 10:24AM

TTT, once again.

About 25 hours to go and still only eight bids. Anyone else care to predict when the last minute bidding starts and how many bids will be placed at the end of the auction. Again I predict bids will start with 5 minutes to go and there will be 18 total bids during that time. Also it will sell for over $300.00.

100proof1957 · May 7, 2005 12:29PM

155.09 and the buyer is gonna be pissed !

tlhoy · May 7, 2005 12:32PM

$207.53

ConstellatioCollector · May 7, 2005 12:33PM

185.00!

tlhoy · May 8, 2005 11:21AM

19 mins $103

5 Mins $127.50

Russ · May 8, 2005 11:36AM

Just jumped to $151.

Russ, NCNE

clw54 · May 8, 2005 11:38AM

618 viewings.

clw54 · May 8, 2005 11:39AM

I guess $212.

Russ · May 8, 2005 11:41AM

Finished at 178.50. Marty! I knew he wouldn't be able to resist.

Russ, NCNE

tlhoy · May 8, 2005 11:41AM

Winning bid: US $178.50

Ended: May-08-05 18:40:50 PDT
Start time: May-01-05 18:40:50 PDT
History: 13 bids (US $1.00 starting bid)
Winning bidder: madmartyk

HOLY CRAP! Have these people gone NUTS!!! MARTY SPENDS ALMOST $180 on a 1964 proof set!

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