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1839-O Bust Half Dollar - Value? Help please!

DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
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I added some MUCH better pictures. Tell me what you think it should grade!!!


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  • wjd283wjd283 Posts: 1,406
    I would say XF,but with the fuzzy pics it could be AU.
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    XF-40? XF-45? What do you think?
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    picture-perfect xf-40

    K S
  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fuzzy auimage
  • wjd283wjd283 Posts: 1,406
    I'd go 45.
  • Purple73Purple73 Posts: 2,016 ✭
    I think I'll say.......I'll stay away from this one......Last time I got grilled for my lowball grading skillz.


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  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382 ✭
    AU details cleaned net EF 40
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  • nepbrs44nepbrs44 Posts: 600 ✭✭


    << <i>AU details cleaned net EF 40 >>



    Go with KurtHorn image

    Cleaned big time!
    Bill.

    Bust Half & FSB Merc Collector
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll guess PCGS AU50, but I'd grade it Choice XF-45 with nice eye appeal.
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    well its pcgs certified xf-40. glad to hear some xf-45's in there and even moreso AU details.... but its not cleaned just extremely beautiful =P

    it is just beautifully toned!
  • wjd283wjd283 Posts: 1,406
    Hey,I never said I could grade a fuzzy pic. image

    Looks like me and you both need to work on our picture skills.
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    mine is actually a scan and actual size.... *shrugs* i'll have to work on my camera skills =)
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it in an old green label holder? I can't believe PCGS would only call it EF-40.
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    its a blue holder, and i really cant believe its xf40 either! it also has some REALLY cool breaks in the date, the stars, and "states of america"
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    *bump* could anyone tell me what they think of my pictures and/or coin? do the new pictures do it better justice?
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The detail might look a bit better than 40. Pcgs might have net graded it down a bit for a light cleaning.
    Or perhaps a scratch we can't see in the image. Yes, Pcgs and Ngc will net grade too. They just don't put it on the holder.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Straight EF-40, lightly cleaned long ago, but it really doesn't matter in this grade. There is ample wear on the bust face and hair, and the eagle's feathers have a light layer of wear. A true AU should show less wear than this AND some mint luster.

    This date comes well struck with lots of detail, so you can't claim "weak strike." It's also not a major rarity in EF or better since it was really the first of its kind. (The 1838-O is prohibitively rare with just 20 struck.) Although one would hardly call it common by today's standards, from the perspective of the old timers, it is a "common" date.

    Don't get me wrong. This is a nice, interesting coin with its obverse mint mark. BUT it's not a landmark coin by any means.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Stman, Coin looks Xf-45 detail. Luster subdued and lightly cleaned some time ago. They probably market graded it to xf-40 rather than BBing it.

    Neat early O mint half

  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    what do you think, after considering all that everyone has said, a fair price for the coin would be? a range would be great and once again, THANKS!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gray Sheet EF-40 Bid is $560.00 and AU is $850.00. I'd say the range would be $ 625.00 to $ 750.00 for a collector.

    It would hard for a dealer to acquite this coin at the $ 560.00. He'd have to pay $600.00 or so for it.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    i guess im missing some stuff in my grey sheet! =P

    i guess i paid the minimum a collector could while still helping support his local dealer, and i think the coin is extraordinary for the grade, so that makes my night!

    thanks SO much, i really appreciate it!
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i have a couple of 39-o's. you have to remember not to grade these as you would a open-collar letter-edge. these reeded-edge coins, in particular the 39-o's , which were well produced, always look about 1/2 grade higher then a comparable lettered-edge.

    K S

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