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How does a finger print on a Red MS coin affect the grade. I am looking at a 09S VDB and not very good at grading coins. The coin dealer said it was a 63 or 64.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It depends on how large and how visible the print is. Is it in a main focal area? Tucked away and hard to see at first glance? If the dealer says the coin is MS63 to MS64, and it is not already holdered by a reputable grading service, my advice would be to run the other direction - fast.

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>How does a finger print on a Red MS coin affect the grade. I am looking at a 09S VDB and not very good at grading coins. The coin dealer said it was a 63 or 64. >>



    ask him to send it in to PCGS for certification and slabbing. If it comes back in the grade range he told you then buy it.

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  • Russ

    Thanks for the answer Russ. The print can be seen on Lincolns jacket and in the field in front of his face.
    The reverse looks good. No prints or marks.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The print can be seen on Lincolns jacket and in the field in front of his face. >>



    That's probably good for a two point drop. But, the real issue here is that this is an expensive key date coin that is raw. It's likely the coin has problems that prevent it from being graded and authenticated. It is a purchase you should avoid.

    Russ, NCNE
  • anoldgoatanoldgoat Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭
    Very good point Russ
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  • So I'm probably looking at a MS 60 coin. To bad, If I was to buy it anyway what would be a fair offer for it.

    Steve


  • << <i>So I'm probably looking at a MS 60 coin. To bad, If I was to buy it anyway what would be a fair offer for it.

    Steve >>



    Are you even sure it's authentic ?

    Like i stated in my response above, (which you seemed to ignore) try to get the dealer to send it to PCGS for authentication and slabbing.

    This is a higher end coin value wise and shouldn't be purchased raw unless you are 100% certain it's real.

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If I was to buy it anyway what would be a fair offer for it. >>



    Are you looking to get screwed?

    Russ, NCNE
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    Russ is right. Even if it were authentic you would be better off looking for an example that is problem free. There are plenty of mint state 09svdb's around that are slabbed and attractive.
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  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615
    A print is always going to be a negative and the TPG companies are going to be harsh on it, especially if it has not started to corrode the coin.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    If I see a finger print, I immediately down grade the coin to 64 tops. This is for copper and nickel coinage only.

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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How does a finger print on a Red MS coin affect the grade. I am looking at a 09S VDB and not very good at grading coins. The coin dealer said it was a 63 or 64. >>



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  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    As a Lincoln man,I would agree with the rest.There are many certified problem free examples of that paticular Key Date coin.
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You would be wise to pass on this coin unless, as ss350camaro suggested, have the dealer submit it first.

    Chris
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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Are you looking to get screwed ?

    Russ NCNE

    This is a coin forum Russ. Behave yourself !!!


    LMS
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is a coin forum Russ. Behave yourself !! >>



    That's a good one coming from you Stewart. image

    Russ, NCNE

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