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Why are coins minted with a date and mintmark anyway?

Dies used from prior years blooming overdate varieities, some coins not even minted in the date they say (1804 Silver Dollar for one). What was (is) the point of having a date on the coin anyway? For record keeping? No, the Mint can still keep record each year of how many were made.

Wow - would there be much of a numismatic market if coins did not have mint marks or dates?
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Probably not but I'm sure we could come up with something! image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not know the answers, but if there were no coins with MMs, my collection would be decimated.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clearly in the past the ability to trace where and when a particular coin was minted was important to determine if the coin had been illegally debased. I presume that dates and mintmakrks remain today largely because of this history. Plus I suspect that collectors would raise a fuss if dates and mintmarks were eliminated. Politicians likely would see no gain from this elimination and it would upset some voters, so I presume that no politican would push for their removal.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's still a quality control issue just as it was in the past.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Dates, mint marks and minter's marks determined who got boiled in oil if someone slipped some base metal into the coinage.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,835 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Clearly in the past the ability to trace where and when a particular coin was minted was important to determine if the coin had been illegally debased. >>



    While debasement is not the big deal that it once was, quality certainly is. And maintaining the date and mint mark DOES put a marker on a mint's products. Not too long ago the Philidelphia mint seemed to be way behind the Denver mint when it came to quality. Perhaps noting that resulted in an improvement of their product.
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    the answer is "quality control".

    K S
  • Or, is it to cause collectors to spend more? ;-)
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    It's all about entertaining collectors.


  • NoGvmntNoGvmnt Posts: 1,126
    So the Mint can hawk more products.

    Jim
  • We would not be here without them. How would I spend my extra cash??

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  • BigGreekBigGreek Posts: 1,090


    << <i>So the Mint can hawk more products.

    Jim >>



    Interestingly, the mint removed mint-marks for a few years in
    the 60's in an attempt to discourage hoarding. But somehow
    they figured out that hoarding was actually improving their
    bottom line so they added them back.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Interestingly, the mint removed mint-marks for a few years in
    the 60's in an attempt to discourage hoarding. But somehow
    they figured out that hoarding was actually improving their
    bottom line so they added them back. >>



    They not only didn't use the three mint marks on circulating coinage (cents and quarters were
    struck in San Francisco), but they also instituted a date freeze on coins. '64 issues were struck
    well into 1965 and it was believed at the time that the 1965 date would appear on the new coins
    forever. There was not a big hue and cry for the restoration of mint marks but there were a few
    people who cared and some were very vocal. The mint restored normal dating and mint marks
    to 1968 coinage when it was obvious the new coins were not being saved in large numbers and
    the coin shortage was ended by the enormous number of clads which had enterred circulation. It
    should be noted that cent and nickel production was actually down during these years which would
    seem to imply that the shortage actually ended much sooner than officially acknowledged and the
    high production rates of dimes and quarters were primarily to replace the silver coins which were be-
    ing hoarded. It was likely this hoarding by the general public due to rising silver prices that was the
    major cause of the coin shortage.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with CK. Same thing with paper money -- serial numbers, sheet placement identifiers, etc.
    Doug
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are coins minted with a date and mintmark anyway? >>


    I don't know, but let's just be glad that they do.

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