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Okay, how does PCGS actually come up with a grade on a coin like this?

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    That looks no better than an MS62 planchet, at best. I have very hight planchet standards, though. Especially with the obverse (reverse?) fingerprint. At least, I THINK I see a fingerprint. It might just be the fever.
  • MillertimeMillertime Posts: 2,048 ✭✭
    Maybe we can use it as a wild card to fill a hole in the registry sets.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Goose,

    Ah, so they use the same method as will all submissions.

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  • BigGreekBigGreek Posts: 1,090
    Isn't 63 supposed to be the grade an average coin would
    get when it leaves the mint. Maybe they guessed it was an
    average coin.
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  • They forgot the PL on that one.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe they are only grading the 5% that was actually struck....

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    It's an upgrade candidate, I think.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess PCGS feels duty-bound to stick a grade on errors regardless of how little detail they show. To me it's a bit of joke because the really important thing is the type of error. Beyond that wear and the number and severity of scratches is important, but it's not the main thing unless that coin as suffered some noticeable damage outside of the mint.
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  • weresteveweresteve Posts: 1,224
    Not quite sure ... but then again ... I find this one amusing also ...

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  • If PCGS ever finds Kennedy's head, it might be a DCAM too!!image
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  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    Those are truly some 'original' surfaces.

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  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    I think it's pretty much impossible to assign a reliable grade on a coin (planchet) like that one. Since 95% of the coin was not struck, it has no lustre, the planchet itself is heavily abraded, there is no real strike to access, and the coin cannot be judged on eye appeal..........so what does that leave to assign a grade??
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They forgot the PL on that one. >>



    Planchetlike?
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  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    C'mon, that obviously is a very sharply struck fraction of rim ...
  • I wander what my 1913 liberty nickle planchet would grade ?

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  • Why didn't the nickel get the Full Steps designation???


    I think there are a bunch of lead slugs in my garage that grade at least MS60 if those are 64s....just kidding, but what a joke. Why assign a grade? Why not just certify it is an error that originated from the mint?


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  • weresteveweresteve Posts: 1,224


    << <i>Why didn't the nickel get the Full Steps designation??? >>



    Ummm ... I think you are referring to this one maybe???

    1998 JEFFERSON NICK MINT ERROR-PCGS MS 65 FULL STEPS

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    ms-63 means average unc. if the coin's an unc, there's an excellent bet that it's average.

    but overall the idea of "grading" coins like this is idiotic in the extreme, though less idiotic then getting it slabed in the 1st place.

    K S

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