::Now With a Bit of a Twist!:: Just For Fun Basics. Which 1914-D is Real and Which One is Fake?

braddick · April 23, 2005 11:38AM

Is the left one real or fake? How about the one on the right? Are they both fake? Both real?
Please, tell me why.
For this excercise you don't need reverse photos. Also, the coins are not in the greatest of shape, but that'll just make it a bit tougher for you.

Title is Edited to add: "Now With a Bit of a Twist"

clw54 · April 23, 2005 11:39AM

The one on the right is fake.

F117ASR · April 23, 2005 11:40AM

Don't know about the one on the left but the one on the right looks like an altered mintmark

F117ASR · April 23, 2005 11:41AM

It looks like the turned a 14-S to a 14-D

FatMan · April 23, 2005 11:41AM

<< <i>The one on the right is fake. >>

Agree, the one on the right is an altered 44

coinkat · April 23, 2005 11:41AM

The one on the right is a fake. I don't like the space between the 9 and 1.

D · April 23, 2005 11:42AM

Left looks legit, right does not.

Although, I'd NEVER buy a 1914-D without a closeup of Lincolns Shoulder

.

-Daniel

KollectorKing · April 23, 2005 11:44AM

The right is "wrong"

looks like an altered 44-s

The left is "right":

prooflike · April 23, 2005 11:45AM

The one on the right is fake, the left looks good.

JRocco · April 23, 2005 11:47AM

The one on the right is NG, but the one on the left is questionable also, the mintmark looks a little low to me.

braddick · April 23, 2005 11:54AM

You guys are good! Now, let me add a bit of a twist:
(First off, you're right, although low grade, with a bit of crusty corrosion, the one on the left is genuine 1914-D.)

Now, with all that said, please take a closer look at the "Lincoln" on the right. There is something going on with that one that is interesting. . .

clw54 · April 23, 2005 12:00PM

It looks like it was nearly melted.

ttown · April 23, 2005 12:01PM

or cast

coinkat · April 23, 2005 12:04PM

could be misaliened dies...

Vet · April 23, 2005 12:08PM

The one on the right turned the 4 into a 1 spacing to wide

goose3 · April 23, 2005 12:11PM

slight misaligned dies?

F117ASR · April 23, 2005 12:19PM

dipped in acid?

nwcs · April 23, 2005 12:25PM

Thr right one is clearly fake. The left one looks real enough based on a photo.

braddick · April 23, 2005 12:25PM

Great answers, one and all, but I suspect there really is no way to have figured it out, especially based on the photos only. (Now, in hand, the answer would reveal itself to you a bit more readily.)

The second coin is a counterfeit minted from false dies (according to ANACS). Now, feature this (!): The oh so brilliant counterfeiter used a genuine, yet altered Lincoln cent for his working die. Instead of using a genuine 1914-D he used a bad, fake one! So, what we have pictured here is a counterfeit of a fake!

(The head of Lincoln is one of the 'tells' outside of, of course, the altered date.)

I keep this one in my irony box.

ChangeInHistory · April 23, 2005 12:53PM

Not only a couterfeiter, but a lazy couterfeiter!

By the way, if it's a counterfiet of a fake, doesn't that cancel out and make it genuine

nwcs · April 23, 2005 12:55PM

I call that coinpoetic justice!

ss350camaro · April 23, 2005 1:14PM

The one on the left doesn't look right to me. The "D" seems too far away from the date.

BigGreek · April 23, 2005 1:15PM

left real, right fake

BigGreek · April 23, 2005 1:18PM

Braddick,

what is the world coming to when even counterfieters can be fooled
by fake 14-Ds.

Nice find!

-Dimitri.

Shamika · April 23, 2005 1:19PM

The one on the right is clearly an altered 44-D. The mint mark is not the early type.

The one on the left appear to be realy at first glance. However, the mintmark may be added onto a 14-P.

originalisbest · April 23, 2005 1:27PM

Nothing wrong with the mintmark position of the one on the left.

ss350camaro · April 23, 2005 1:30PM

<< <i>Nothing wrong with the mintmark position of the one on the left. >>

Is it a variety? re-punched mm ?

anoldgoat · April 23, 2005 1:33PM

Left one good, right one fake.

ss350camaro · April 23, 2005 1:34PM

MAD4MORGANS · April 23, 2005 2:27PM

left=real, right=fake

yellowjacket · April 24, 2005 6:42AM

Look at the shape of the original's four and nine compared to the numeral shapes of the counterfeit. The original's four is small and "petit" compared to the larger four used in later years of the 1940's. The loop of the nine points in towards "three o'clock" typical for the teens compared to the "open" nine used in the 1940's. I agree with my bretheren that the fake on the right is from a 1944. (Lincoln on the right is also of a higher relief...atypical of early Lincolns.)