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page 102 of online edition - not sure if that's the same as print edition - in Collector's Clearinghouse with nice large photo. Thank you Eric! Here's a few 'snips'. Since it's copyright I'm sure, I better not post the whole article. image

Publication:Coin World; Date:Monday, April 11, 2005 ; Section:Collectors' Clearinghouse; Page:102

Collectors’ Clearinghouse

A few raised marks

‘Spear’ penetrates bison on new 5-cent coin

By Eric von Klinger COIN WORLD Staff

The bison appears to have been speared on a quantity of 2005-D Jefferson, American Bison 5-cent coins discovered by Pamela Ryman-Moir of Texas.

A somewhat light but distinct die gouge shows as a raised, straight line on the coins. The line runs from the left side of the E in STATES southwest through the bison, ending below its belly.....

Error-variety specialist Ken Potter, familiar to Coin World readers as a regular coauthor of the "Varieties Notebook" column, examined the same example. He came down on the side of calling the mark a gouge because of the evenness with which it crosses both the open fields and a large recess of the die (the animal’s body).....

This die stage should achieve at least mention in specialty works on Westward Journey 5-cent coins or the Jefferson type in general.



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  • hi
    thats good news.thanks
    littlejohn
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Why can't I ever find anything like this.

    Bet you I could go through a dozen large bags of them and not find a thing.
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    Congrats! I lived in Texas for 20 years and I never speared even ONE Bison!
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    COINGRATS, PAM!

    Have any of these been found in the mint-wrapped rolls?

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • Bob - I don't know about mint wrapped rolls. I heard from one person that someone found 50 in a mint bag, but haven't heard anymore about it, and haven't confirmed it - altho the source is reliable.

    I also just noticed that there is also a blurb about the herd of bison on page 12 in the Editorial ... here's a snip:

    .....Texas on March 10 spotted a small herd of bison (27) image that all appear to have been speared. The bison are on the newly released 2005-D Jefferson, American Bison 5-cent coins.

    A somewhat light but distinct die gouge shows as a raised, straight line on the coins. The line runs from the left side of the E in STATES southwest through the bison, ending below its belly.
  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979
    That's really awesome. I'm looking forward to reading about your find when my print edition comes.
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    -Bob
    collections: Maryland related coins & exonumia, 7070 Type set, and Video Arcade Tokens.
    The Low Budget Y2K Registry Set
  • RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    Way to go Pam!!!image
  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    I think all the early rolls from denver had the "Seared Bison" I got my rolls early and had about 3 per roll out of 10 rolls.image
  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    Make that rare for the bison!!!!!!!!!!!! I may have to lookitup
  • The high spear and low spear varieties are both very spearlike.

    It appears to be a regulation issue spear and is deliberately placed to hit the bison's big soft belly, rather than his fat furry head. Clearly it is no accidental gouge, but instead a deliberate "end-of-day" rarity by the sole mint employee who goes unwatched by cameras and has free access to the entire facility and a copy of Time-Life's book, "Die-engraving on a budget."

    My early estimates of the population is that there are only enough for me to sell and for you to buy. This is the key coin to the entire speared animals coin series. A speared animal oozing guts is entirely more disgusting than a 3-legged buffalo, and will surely generate great interest from all readers of USA Today. I only have a limited supply of these slabbed in greasy bacon-wrappers, with grades of Gross-64 and better.
    Buy now to silence my inane blithering blabbering about this major error.
    "A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes"--Hugh Downs
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    imageimage

    Nice going, Pam!
  • I prefer my bison speared!! Then fileted and then roasted!!
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The high spear and low spear varieties are both very spearlike.

    It appears to be a regulation issue spear and is deliberately placed to hit the bison's big soft belly, rather than his fat furry head. Clearly it is no accidental gouge, but instead a deliberate "end-of-day" rarity by the sole mint employee who goes unwatched by cameras and has free access to the entire facility and a copy of Time-Life's book, "Die-engraving on a budget."

    My early estimates of the population is that there are only enough for me to sell and for you to buy. This is the key coin to the entire speared animals coin series. A speared animal oozing guts is entirely more disgusting than a 3-legged buffalo, and will surely generate great interest from all readers of USA Today. I only have a limited supply of these slabbed in greasy bacon-wrappers, with grades of Gross-64 and better.
    Buy now to silence my inane blithering blabbering about this major error. >>




    I guess this is the thread where people are allowed to be unhappy over this development.

    I agree with the point of this parody 100%. A couple of experts were very worried when the WI quarter errors began to be hyped that it would mark a return to the days when every little die chip and gauge was trumpeted as the next big variety. Between these coins and the "tall hat" CA quarters that a dealer was enthusiastically endorsing at a show last week (and which are all over eBay now), I fear those predictions have come true.

    I'm sorry, but many of the people crowing about these new varieties are the same ones who were laughing at the "pi$$ing minuteman" and "FIRST STAT" eBay auctions two years ago. I defy any of you to tell me, other than what is says on the insert of your slab, what the difference is between those coins and these.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭


    << <i>
    I guess this is the thread where people are allowed to be unhappy over this development.

    I agree with the point of this parody 100%. A couple of experts were very worried when the WI quarter errors began to be hyped that it would mark a return to the days when every little die chip and gauge was trumpeted as the next big variety. Between these coins and the "tall hat" CA quarters that a dealer was enthusiastically endorsing at a show last week (and which are all over eBay now), I fear those predictions have come true.

    I'm sorry, but many of the people crowing about these new varieties are the same ones who were laughing at the "pi$$ing minuteman" and "FIRST STAT" eBay auctions two years ago. I defy any of you to tell me, other than what is says on the insert of your slab, what the difference is between those coins and these.


    Sean Reynolds >>



    That's a lot of venom coming from somebody that collects clipped planchets. image

    Edit for italics.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,120 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>


    I guess this is the thread where people are allowed to be unhappy over this development.

    I agree with the point of this parody 100%. A couple of experts were very worried when the WI quarter errors began to be hyped that it would mark a return to the days when every little die chip and gauge was trumpeted as the next big variety. Between these coins and the "tall hat" CA quarters that a dealer was enthusiastically endorsing at a show last week (and which are all over eBay now), I fear those predictions have come true.

    I'm sorry, but many of the people crowing about these new varieties are the same ones who were laughing at the "pi$$ing minuteman" and "FIRST STAT" eBay auctions two years ago. I defy any of you to tell me, other than what is says on the insert of your slab, what the difference is between those coins and these.
    >>




    One of the greatest problems with the MA proof quarter is in the name. Several
    good ones were suggested but they were ignored. Additionally the MA coin is
    merely the result of chance which resulted in a die break in a "normal" area. Normal
    meaning that the die usually breaks across the field in a weak spot in the die.

    The "FIRST STAT" e-bay offerings were even less interesting because filled dies are
    even more common. While some might to desire to own such coins it certainly is
    not wise to spend considerable sums on coins which have little chance of maintaining
    long-term desirability. I have an extensive collection of '60-D bar nickels (minor die-
    breaks above date) but would never pay more than $1 for one and likely haven't
    paid that much.

    The WI coins, however, appear to be quite deliberate. They both appear to be de-
    sign elements and even show some artistic ability (for their nature). This opinion
    seems to be more than confirmed by the fact that they were produced simultaneously
    and likely on the same quad press.

    Is the new nickel a result of the same artist? Probably not since it appears it might
    be random. Was it intentional? Probably not. While the coin is interesting and does
    positively identify it as coming from a specific die, it does not have the import that the
    WI coins do.

    Were people who said this might open the floodgates right? Obviously, but this was
    equivalent to predicting the sun will rise tomorrow and this has absolutely no bearing
    on the extra leaf quarters.








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