What to do with unopened proof sets

rb7557 · March 9, 2005 12:39PM

Do I open these or leave em alone? Bought a 56 and 57 proof set from a forum member. They are unopened so now do I put them away or open them????

I go through this everytime I buy these things!!!! I do want to add that nankraut is a class act seller. Fast and professional from start to finish, and cheaper than he sold these for on ebay.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy more from him.

Numismanic · March 9, 2005 12:44PM

It's up to you, you never know what you might find. I have a 1955
box proof set that's unopen. I've had it for a year now, and I'm
getting that "itch" to open it. I figured I'll do a poll thread and
see if the Forum folks here think if I should just for fun.

JRocco · March 9, 2005 12:46PM

Absolute no brainer ---OPEN IT

Russ · March 9, 2005 12:51PM

OPEN THEM!

Russ, NCNE

D · March 9, 2005 12:52PM

I bought three from a Dutch style ebay auction for 18.50 each, and now I wish I bought more, I cracked them open and they were awsome. (The likelyhood of my three being as nice as they were is pretty scarce.)

1961/1962/1963 were the years, all three nickels were deep purple, one has many colors other than purple, two pennys were nearly purple and one Franklin Half had purple around the rim.

I recommend opening them

.

-Daniel

stman · March 9, 2005 12:57PM

I need to decide on opening this 1955 mint set as well. Oh I'm gonna open it though.

skydivdav · March 9, 2005 1:01PM

You need to send them to me and I'll open them!

blue skies!
david

FatMan · March 9, 2005 1:03PM

I suspect you paid some kind of premium in hopes of finding something special. Well you sure ain't going find it keeping it closed. What are you waiting for....Open It!

rb7557 · March 9, 2005 1:09PM

You guys are horrible!!! No respect for almost 50 years of originality!!!

I'll get to it. I had another 56 that I kept for a year. Nothing special when I finally opened that one. Now that 55 box set would give me a heart attack!!!

coinbuf · March 9, 2005 1:11PM

I second your endorsment of nankraut, I also bought a 56 and 57 unopened set from him. I'm putting my two away, I mean really if someone does'nt save some unopened sets what will Russ and Marty have to look forward to.

Chris

rb7557 · March 9, 2005 1:17PM

You know, I don't even want to talk about those 2. They seem to have all the luck when it comes to finding the good stuff!!!!

coinbuf · March 9, 2005 1:21PM

Well I'll give them both their due, thay must have looked at almost every 64 proof set on the planet by now.

Chris

Nickelback · March 9, 2005 1:38PM

Open it! You never know...

doop · March 9, 2005 2:06PM

Aalready checked, resealed in almost undetectable modern packs and boxes,
sell ! open em up, may be a half tricker in there.
that's what keeps ya'll buying them like that
no cameo or pr set dealer lets a single set pass his hands (short of being in the mint sealed shipping package itself)
WITHOUT already having been checked for an easy hit
what ? no hits ?
no problem !
boxes, exact tape,polys and soft cellos and ink stampers readily availble,just soak a row of staples for a week,let dry
and "poof" mint sealed as issued box or flatpack "mint sealed" sets....heh heh heh heh
flat packs, phhhh, by the jillions at 25c apiece on the dealer and supply market
keep em coming with a little nothing or two here and there for "who knew" purposes and you are a "legit" scammer
heh, ya'll wont ever learn..

Bochiman · March 9, 2005 2:46PM

I bid on some on ebay but knuckleheads outbid me

Myqqy · March 9, 2005 3:15PM

ya'll wont ever learn..

Man, do you ever say anything other than the fact that most unopened sets have already been opened?

And rb7557- open everything!!

doop · March 9, 2005 3:38PM

<< ya'll wont ever learn..

Man, do you ever say anything other than the fact that most unopened sets have already been opened?

And rb7557- open everything!!

>>

the truth is the truth is the truth.
do this as #1 pop report by count maker of 50-70 cams for 27yrs,over all others
know the gsa auction off of a large bob-truck full of this original boxes,cellos and flat packs in the 70's and 80's
basically for peanuts, add in the fact we've bought more true sealed deals than anyone else
make the markets, hold tight to pricings and get in the most of true sealed deals
then ask me again,we'll be more on the correct page

Bear · March 9, 2005 3:41PM

When I buy an "unopened Proof Set" I always ask first, for

pictures of the coins.

pf70collector · March 9, 2005 9:44PM

I have an unopened set with all the years from 1956-1963 I bought on ebay for $250.00. Didnt want to open them so I bought more unopened in those same years and opened them. The results wern't very good when I opened them. So I tend to believe some were already opened, but I could not tell at all that they look tampered with. They look genuinely unopened. I will hold on to the unopened set mentioned above for about another 30 years and see how they are selling then. Nothing to lose and if the prices are not selling high by then I will open them. Just hope the cello packs hold up for that long. That way I wont regret opening them.

JrGMan2004 · March 9, 2005 9:48PM

Open the Beasts!!!!

rb7557 · March 9, 2005 10:32PM

doop....I agree that there are a jillion resealed, repackaged, made over sets out there. The person that sold these stated that he was the original owner. Had sat on them for almost 50 years. That is not an impossibilty. It was a person from these forums, and I would rather take him at his word, until its proven otherwise. He had great ebay feedback, seems to be a collector vs. a dealer (although collecting coins tends to make us all dealers to a certain extent) and seems to be a great person. He also had pics of the proof sets in original mint boxes and a lot of these sets on hand. Its a gamble whenever we buy these, but thats the reason most of us buy them in the first place.

Now, if they turn out to be junk, I'll just chalk it up to experience! But as stated earlier, I wouldn't hesitate to go back to this gentleman for future purchases. He handled the deal with professionalism from start to finish. And that is more than I can say about everyone I have dealt with in the past. If I had seen these on the coin vault I would have passed on them, for all reasons you gave!

wvinchic · March 10, 2005 12:57AM

Does anyone else here have a hard time understanding anything that doop says? I read it and reread it and still get confused by what he is saying! I feel like I have to cross my eyes to read it properly! LOL Sorry doop!

Stacy

wvinchic · March 10, 2005 12:57AM

Oh I forgot! Open 'em!!!!

Stacy

Russ · March 10, 2005 2:33AM

<< They seem to have all the luck when it comes to finding the good stuff!!!! >>

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

<< no cameo or pr set dealer lets a single set pass his hands (short of being in the mint sealed shipping package itself)
WITHOUT already having been checked for an easy hit >>

Hey Doops,

We know that. That's why we don't buy them from you dealers.

I got a group of nine unopened 1964 sets in a couple weeks ago, (at barely over Greysheet), from a non dealer. All nine contained Accented Hair Kennedys, and six of those were cameos. Ha ha!

Russ, NCNE

BarberKid · March 10, 2005 2:44AM

You don't buy a lottery ticket to preserve it do you

.... no you scratch the sucker.

OPEN IT!!!

doop · March 10, 2005 3:28AM

<< 

<< They seem to have all the luck when it comes to finding the good stuff!!!! >>

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

<< no cameo or pr set dealer lets a single set pass his hands (short of being in the mint sealed shipping package itself)
WITHOUT already having been checked for an easy hit >>

Hey Doops,

We know that. That's why we don't buy them from you dealers.

I got a group of nine unopened 1964 sets in a couple weeks ago, (at barely over Greysheet), from a non dealer. All nine contained Accented Hair Kennedys, and six of those were cameos. Ha ha!

Russ, NCNE >>

hey mr biggie smalls, we dont sell sealed proof sets, however i know of at least 5 allegedly "big" cameo dealers on the show circuit as well as ebay who repack and sell by baiting groups with a peanut or two for the monkeys.

when we go through our deals, the "stuff" and or junk goes to any # of coin net buyers from bid to 20 back

i'd much rather buy 10 boxes of say for example of 50 mint sealed shipping cartons for good premiums
on an ongoing basis to get to that one box chocked full of FAT profit. we move em in all directions.

if you cant chisel out 10k to sometimes 40 or 50k a month on real sealed carton deals then you have no
choice but to nitpick around here or there.

if you make a few hits, cool.

if they come to you auto, not even knowing whats coming most of the time you can bet that's how to run a cameo business
and make easy high ceo-type pay all the while loving it and having FREEDOM

and fyi and others, some are on here daily, we send off thousands of made cams a yr on the cheap end and they sell em on ebay,TT,etc. some use those 25c replica flats, some have plenty of boxes and cellos to make up er, uhh sealed boxed sets
with the little thumb-pull doo-dad tape,fresh inner tissue and wrappings as if never seen,though they have and all these
idiots are paying 5-600 for 52, $1000+ for 50-51,etc and they aint gonna get sh*t !

you are now more informed than a few moments ago

we've been doing this since before all the others,numerous ones on ebay and vest pockets ever caught on, dude.

they are thinking about their own muti-million dollar retirements except commiting purposeful fraud in doing so..

most know who they are: "fine upstanding prestigous dealers". yyyyyyyyeah.......

i wouldnt do it nor waste our time or integrity to think about it

one good hit in a hundred box makes up 10 100 pc boxes where the 9 of 10 boxes that yeild nada

and...as i have become married to by intimate experience and taking lots of bad hits, it's the one that makes you 25-30 profit in an instant against selling the off or avg at back of bid to keep the dough rolling. there are more sealed box and flatpack deals out there of all ALL years 50-70 than have yet been looked at than have seen the light of day. next 10 years will continue to remain so. experience, slabbing hundreds of thousands of proofs and cams,dcams,ucams or selling raw, which many prefer will continue for a while longer.
as the age of buyers from back in the day and time since "the days" they still have millions of these in 5,10,25,50,75,100,250 and even bulk 500 box dealer buys from back then that have not been touched.

doop · March 10, 2005 3:40AM

oh, i meant to add for Russ:
there wouldnt be a kennedy half dollar,at all. not that i dont like em up to 1970
had it not been the secret world powers (kind of like us masons wahabi shriners) bumping his a*s off
seeings how it was clear he was starting a world war III. they deemed he had to go, and, he went.
thus, you get your AH'S and nice sms kennedy halves.
eh?
dabblers, ya'll amuse me

pharmer · March 10, 2005 3:46AM

Surprisingly, he's not a bad speller, though.

PTVETTER · March 10, 2005 3:57AM

I open them if there is a hidden treasure I want to be the one how finds it

bgrice · March 10, 2005 4:28AM

I wish you all would shut up about these envelopes of proofs. I went and bought a '57 *supposedly unopened* set last night. No way it stays unopened. RIP!

rb7557 · March 10, 2005 12:32PM

You don't buy a lottery ticket to preserve it do you

.... no you scratch the sucker.

OPEN IT!!

I love this one! I don't buy lottery tickets!!! But I did open the sets!!! No treasures but I did find a cameo obverse quarter in the 56 set. The penny was pretty nice too. The 57 is a nice set also, but, no cameo treasures. I'm not unhappy! And I will probably flip these at a loss but who cares! I really got a problem here. Won't gamble on a lotto ticket, but a proof set? You bet. Now on to the next deal!!!

MajorDuty · March 10, 2005 1:00PM

<< Aalready checked, resealed in almost undetectable modern packs and boxes,
sell ! open em up, may be a half tricker in there.
that's what keeps ya'll buying them like that
no cameo or pr set dealer lets a single set pass his hands (short of being in the mint sealed shipping package itself)
WITHOUT already having been checked for an easy hit
what ? no hits ?
no problem !
boxes, exact tape,polys and soft cellos and ink stampers readily availble,just soak a row of staples for a week,let dry
and "poof" mint sealed as issued box or flatpack "mint sealed" sets....heh heh heh heh
flat packs, phhhh, by the jillions at 25c apiece on the dealer and supply market
keep em coming with a little nothing or two here and there for "who knew" purposes and you are a "legit" scammer
heh, ya'll wont ever learn.. >>

Has anyone deciphered this yet? I'm pretty sure it is some dialect of English.

What to do with unopened proof sets

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