I'm about to find out just how good NCS is.

Russ · March 4, 2005 3:44AM

I just sent this one off to them:

Underneath all the crap is a very strong cameo coin. Not a DCAM, but a solid cameo with very few marks. It developed all that gunk over 40 years of sitting in the packaging and, from experience, I know I wouldn't be able to improve it much. It'll be interesting to see how well NCS does. This is the toughest one I've ever sent them.

Russ, NCNE

mgoodm3 · March 4, 2005 3:45AM

Should be interesting to see how much they can do above the home remedies.

K6AZ · March 4, 2005 3:47AM

Are you having them send it back to you raw to submit to PCGS or have them send it to NGC?

Russ · March 4, 2005 3:51AM

It'll be coming back raw.

Russ, NCNE

JrGMan2004 · March 4, 2005 3:53AM

Good luck!

Bubblehead · March 4, 2005 4:00AM

I would be very interested in the outcome of this submission, Russ.

Russ · March 4, 2005 4:05AM

I'll bump the thread with the result once it's back.

Russ, NCNE

SanctionII · March 4, 2005 4:20AM

That is a very nice 1965 SMS Cameo. As you said very few marks. It will be interesting to see how successful NCS is in removing the "gunk" [your term] from the coin.

I have a raw 1954 CAMDCAM Frankie I picked up in a Capital holdered set. It is a very clean "black and white" cameo except for some tarnish on the reverse at 2:00 to 8:00. The tarnish is a very light yellow-white in color. I tried to remove it with a home brew with no luck. I had a dealer I trust try to remove it and again no luck. He said send it to NCS and if they can remove the tarnish, I could have a high grade DCAM on my hands (don't I wish).

After seeing how things work out for Russ with his 1965 SMS Kennedy I just might have to give NCS a shot with my 1954 Frankie. I think that Ben looks very cold, however the liberty bell could use some extra snow whote frost.

Russ · March 24, 2005 7:54AM

Coin is back.

They did a spectacular job on a very difficult coin. They couldn't get it all, but they came damned close, leaving only a couple of wispy remnants.

Russ, NCNE

longtimecollector · March 24, 2005 7:55AM

I realize their chemicals/methods are trade secrets, but does anyone have any guesses as to what they use and how they use it ??

Bochiman · March 24, 2005 7:59AM

<< <i>I realize their chemicals/methods are trade secrets, but does anyone have any guesses as to what they use and how they use it ?? >>

Good question!
Maybe a pressure washer?

Water pic?

It would be interesting to know.....even understanding that it still takes experience and ability past the point of just knowing.

robertpr · March 24, 2005 8:02AM

Not too shabby

I don't understand why PCGS hasn't followed suit with their own conservation service?

Russ · March 24, 2005 8:06AM

I'd sure love to find out their methods. One of the other coins I got back today is a cameo Accented Hair that had a large milk spot on the reverse. They couldn't remove it, (nobody can), but they were able to reduce it by about 50%. It takes the coin from PR65CAM to PR66CAM, which pretty much doubles the value. I've never been able to make even the slightest dent in milk spots.

Russ, NCNE

ER · March 24, 2005 8:10AM

<< <i>Coin is back.

They did a spectacular job on a very difficult coin. They couldn't get it all, but they came damned close, leaving only a couple of wispy remnants.

Russ, NCNE >>

They're pretty good doctors, hah?

CarlWohlforth · March 24, 2005 8:12AM

Thanks for posting the results. It looks like they did a good job on that one.

SanctionII · March 24, 2005 9:08AM

Very interesting looking at the before and after pictures. I definitely like the coin, however, from the pictures the intensity of the frost on the bust of Kennedy and on the eagle looks greater on the before picture and less on the after picture. Further the intensity of the frost on the lettering and dates on both sides of the coin look greater in the after picture and less on the before picture. Does anyone else agree with me or is my eyesight messed up?

Russ · March 24, 2005 9:12AM

There is no change in the frost. It's two radically different imaging methods. The first was done pre-lampshade.

Russ, NCNE

RGL · March 24, 2005 9:46AM

That is a pretty sweet difference ... I need to get off my butt and send them a 1942-P Type II Jeff I have been sitting on for too long. Truly spectacular if they can wipe out a couple of tiny problems...

markglicker · March 24, 2005 9:59AM

Nice restoration. How much did they charge?

etexmike · March 24, 2005 10:24AM

That is a great job on the Kennedy Russ.

I have a couple of proof Walkers that I need to send to NCS. Just haven't been brave enough yet.

After some of the reults I have seen on these boards lately, it might be time.

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etexmike

1907Quarter · March 24, 2005 10:48AM

Russ-
you bring out some incredible threads! I was wondering why you don't think the recent 1967 you had sent in had a "worse before" look.

looking at the job they did, it seems like they got all of the reverse fixed, wheras the obverse didn't look as bad and couldn't get all of it...

Russ · March 24, 2005 10:55AM

<< <i>I was wondering why you don't think the recent 1967 you had sent in had a "worse before" look. >>

That one was just a layer of haze. This one was encrustated gunk; much thicker and on the coin for a far longer period of time. A much more difficult restoration project.

Russ, NCNE

1907Quarter · March 24, 2005 11:43AM

How DO they do it!?

clackamas · March 24, 2005 11:50AM

<< <i>How DO they do it!? >>

We all would like to know. It may be worth taking a non paid internship.

dwsblue · March 24, 2005 11:54AM

What is the web address for NCS?

Thanks

robertpr · March 24, 2005 11:59AM

www.ncscoin.com

You get submission privileges when you join up at the collectors society, which also gives you submission privileges to NGC, CGC, and, ugh, SGC.

And now PMG too, in case you have any currency you would like graded.

DHeath · March 24, 2005 12:03PM

I wonder if the post-conservation treatment uses this or a similar product.......

link

UncleWiggly · March 24, 2005 12:26PM

Anybody ever send in a circulated coin to NCS?

Jerry

I'm about to find out just how good NCS is.

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