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EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Here's an Indian Cent which as you can see is not exacty perfect.

Here's the question:

What's so special with this coin?

The best answer (or the correct one) will win a MS-64RB 1905 Indian cent. I'll post the answer and the winner tomorrow at this time.


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Here is the answer:

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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    It has lovely blue-green toning?
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    dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    You dug it out of the ground?
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    poptopsRuspoptopsRus Posts: 1,522
    Repunched date.
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Minor doubled die obverse?
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    It started out as a mercury dime?
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    Looks like an extra "U" between the date & United.

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    Purple73Purple73 Posts: 2,016 ✭
    That baby looks dug out of the ground........nice dig by the way

    and the one 8 is actually a backwards 3

    other than that I have no clue.


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    JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭
    Clashed dies?
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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    The obvious and probably incorrect answer would be that it is a snow 1, 8/7. It appears to have a one in the neck.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll venture that the coin was double struck in the collar, the second strike 3 or 4 degrees clockwise from the first.

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    YCCY9229YCCY9229 Posts: 278
    Is it because its reverse has a higher grade than the obverse?
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204


    << <i>It started out as a mercury dime? >>

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    Must be a 3 hidden in there somewhere too.

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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    It's the so called disappearing denticles variety. image
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    greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I can't see the letter edges of AMERICA very well...but the only thing I can think is it might be the Doubled Die Obverse, with doubling most evident on right edge of AMERICA lettering.

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    RalphP13RalphP13 Posts: 368
    Proof?
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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
    Looks like there is an extra "8" after the last A in America.
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    mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    I'm thinking more of a token coin, meaning it has sentimental value, I'm going to guess this was your first coin ever, possibly found, maybe given to you by a grandfather or something.

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Admittedly this is a guess - it has the same feather placement as the 1886 type I even though it is dated 1887?


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    ScavengerScavenger Posts: 987
    Sentimental value
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    12345678901234567890 Posts: 395
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    What's so special with this coin?
    Nothing, you just want to see all the different opinions you'd get for a piece of crap coin!
    Maybe your trying to show ozzysdad that people will see whatever they want to see.

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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
    Another answer: Coin was struck onto another coin (i.e., the planchet was not a blank).
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    66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    I remember the post about parts of the date misplace all over and anywhere in the IH series. There is something odd on the neck. Tip of a one or seven maybe? My best guess, look forward to the answer.
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    KeyrockKeyrock Posts: 961 ✭
    During the same year Jake Kilrain & Jem Smith fight 106 rounds to a bare knuckle draw. The coin was taped to the knuckles of Jake as a MS68 prior to the start of round 1. At the end of round 106 it was removed along with the bloody bandages, thus the "beat up" appearance of the copper.

    Other than that I have no other guess than those mentioned earlier....
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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Last time I checked NGC had only graded a couple FS-010.7 (1888/887 MPD) but I sure can't see that by the photo. image
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    nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I haven't read any of the other answers but that second 8 in 1887 has a break in the loop.
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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I have to agree with Baley, double struck in collar.
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    repunched date
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    indianabyronindianabyron Posts: 1,023
    Got in change from a store or resturant.

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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    It's a pick-axe variety.

    It has had the tar beat out of it with a pick axe!
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a coin that variety / error lovers would like, and that's why I'm not exactly sure why it is so special. I think Mark, Jared and Baley are on the right track, as you can see a double punched date / double die thing going on here, in addition to a double struck image of the Indian on the leftmost portion of the obverse.

    If the above is incorrect, I have no idea. If am incorrect and the coin IS special, it must be because it is the will of Allah.
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    There's evidence of re-strike as well as that headdress doesn't look quite right. I don't have any in front of me but there is definately something out of place with it.
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Your first indian cent.

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    NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    FS-009.5, Snow-1. OF AMERICA displays doubling.
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    indianabyronindianabyron Posts: 1,023
    Wow I guess im really blind, because I dont see anything other then a very old beatup well worn Indian cent. Isnt it hard to tell if there is anykind of doubling on a coin thats seen better days?? This is the type of coin I let my nephew grab when he is at my place looking through my coins. Now to think of it, you guys who I feel have a heck of a lot better coin grading and varity identifying skills then I have can see all of what you say it could be. It makes me think I need to start sending you guys my coins to identify all those DD's and repunched dates ive been letting go of. And to think now my nephews younger bother Nick is also getting into coins. Before long they will have my collection split up between them.


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    cdan12cdan12 Posts: 364
    10 feathers in headress instead of 11
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    wjd283wjd283 Posts: 1,406
    1887 overdate.
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Maybe a type II, which if true would make it a proof? Last feather points to the A, so the key would be the distance of the A from the hair curl. Just a semi-guess.
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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    started life as a proof
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    PeetiePeetie Posts: 627 ✭✭
    The indian wasn't breathing properly so you performed a tracheostomy?

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting shape on the nose and chin. Could this be a contemporary counterfeit? Or am I just trying too hard?
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    NeptuneNeptune Posts: 2,221
    repunched off kilter, as evidenced by the extra 'u'.
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    joeyukjoeyuk Posts: 3,282
    I am thinking clashed die.
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    But noticing the E below the T in states perhaps double struck.
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    razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    It was/is the first coin your great-grandpop gave to your grandpop.image
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    MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Ummm... It's struck on a planchet made of the wrong metal composition for IHCs of that year.
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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
    I am thinking clashed die.

    If it is a clashed die, it looks like a rotated rev die too.
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    tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    I will go with a massive die clash.

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    coinguy89coinguy89 Posts: 2,151
    I will go with it was your first indian cent you got.image
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    marcalan84marcalan84 Posts: 310
    Hmmm special??.........lets see..........maybe that PCGS graded it as a G04GN (that is a new designation for heavily corroded GreeN coins)?? No need to body bag this beauty!
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    nederveitnederveit Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭
    So many good answers already, so, it's your birth year coin?

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