Next Lee Hoard submission results are in......

KenzoT · December 24, 2004 2:10AM

#9032214

Please don't drool on your keyboard.

cosmicdebris · December 24, 2004 2:14AM

Trooper · December 24, 2004 2:16AM

Excellent !!!!!!!
Tom

DennisH · December 24, 2004 2:16AM

WOW!

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 21816277 1885-CC S$1 USA MS63
1 21816278 1885-CC S$1 USA MS63
1 21816279 1885-CC S$1 USA MS62
1 21816274 1885-CC S$1 USA MS63
1 21816275 1885-CC S$1 USA MS64
1 21816276 1885-CC S$1 USA MS63
2 21816283 1881-CC S$1 USA MS63
2 21816284 1881-CC S$1 USA MS64
2 21816280 1881-CC S$1 USA MS63
2 21816281 1881-CC S$1 USA MS62
2 21816282 1881-CC S$1 USA MS63
3 21816303 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816300 1893-O S$1 USA AU53
3 21816301 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816302 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816297 1893-O S$1 USA XF45
3 21816298 1893-O S$1 USA AU50
3 21816299 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816294 1893-O S$1 USA AU50
3 21816295 1893-O S$1 USA XF45
3 21816296 1893-O S$1 USA XF45
3 21816291 1893-O S$1 USA AU50
3 21816292 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816293 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816288 1893-O S$1 USA XF45
3 21816289 1893-O S$1 USA AU50
3 21816290 1893-O S$1 USA AU50
3 21816285 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816286 1893-O S$1 USA AU55
3 21816287 1893-O S$1 USA AU50

Date Received: 11/30/2004
Date Shipped: 12/22/2004

K6AZ · December 24, 2004 2:17AM

Well, I see the price of 93-Os coming down. The market is already poised for a drop, 19 of these aren't going to help.

Wolf359 · December 24, 2004 2:24AM

That is an amazing submission.

rainbowroosie · December 24, 2004 2:53AM

Looks like 93-O is a common date!!!!

mercurynut · December 24, 2004 2:59AM

BigD5 · December 24, 2004 3:08AM

<< Well, I see the price of 93-Os coming down. The market is already poised for a drop, 19 of these aren't going to help. >>

You said it.

cupronik · December 24, 2004 3:25AM

I don't see the price of 1893-O $1's dropping at all due to these 19 newly graded specimens. I know this date has appreciated sub-
stantially during the past 18 months but the coins in this submission
are probably in the best collector grade (highest affordable) for most
persons. I see more 95-O $1's in EF than 93-O $1's.

Nineteen EF & AU 93-O $1's? No problema in distributing these coins,
senor!

KenzoT · December 24, 2004 3:31AM

Here's a cute story for you guys about the Lee Hoard.
We were at the bank vault yesterday looking at CC's.
I pulled one XF 1891-CC and said what a shame, someone scratched this one and tossed it to Lee. She looked at it for a while and her jaw dropped. What I saw as just scratches in front of the face was actually "LEE" engraved in the coin. We laughed about it and I told her she had better carry that one as a pocket piece for the rest of her life. Grandpa was communicating from the grave.

K6AZ · December 24, 2004 4:47AM

<< I don't see the price of 1893-O $1's dropping at all due to these 19 newly graded specimens. I know this date has appreciated sub-
stantially during the past 18 months but the coins in this submission
are probably in the best collector grade (highest affordable) for most
persons. I see more 95-O $1's in EF than 93-O $1's.

Nineteen EF & AU 93-O $1's? No problema in distributing these coins,
senor! >>

The PCGS population for this date in grades from XF40 to AU58 has nearly doubled in the last three years, and that was before these 19. Couple this with the recent run up in prices, and it spells crash no matter how you want to look at it.

ibzman350 · December 24, 2004 5:01AM

Good,

hopefully now I can afford one.

Happy Holidays !!!!!
Herb

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 24, 2004 5:11AM

I'd like to have the 81cc in 64, and 1 93-0 in a xf45 please?

lava · December 24, 2004 5:17AM

<< 

<< I don't see the price of 1893-O $1's dropping at all due to these 19 newly graded specimens. I know this date has appreciated sub-
stantially during the past 18 months but the coins in this submission
are probably in the best collector grade (highest affordable) for most
persons. I see more 95-O $1's in EF than 93-O $1's.

Nineteen EF & AU 93-O $1's? No problema in distributing these coins,
senor! >>

The PCGS population for this date in grades from XF40 to AU58 has nearly doubled in the last three years, and that was before these 19. Couple this with the recent run up in prices, and it spells crash no matter how you want to look at it. >>

Not entirely true. The submission may impact `93-o coins graded 55 and below, but not 58 and above. There wasn't one 58 or better in the bunch. Again this "hoard" stops short of impacting legitimate registry coins. It's only slightly better than population diarrhea, imo.

K6AZ · December 24, 2004 5:39AM

The 93-O in 55 is not a "legitimate" registry coin? Puhlease.

lava · December 24, 2004 6:20AM

<< The 93-O in 55 is not a "legitimate" registry coin? Puhlease. >>

I'd be a hypocrit if I said no, since my pcgs registry set I think has a 55, but a set with a 55 is screaming for an upgrade, and believe me, I've been trying. With 700+ coins graded by pcgs in ms60 or better (factoring in crack-outs, the number is still at least 400, and with another 160+ coins in 58, 55 is not good enough for a registry set, in my opinion................ at least not until the morgan registry sets top 500.

Besides, there are a bunch of NGC and ANACS coins that could likely be crossed in 58 or better.

To each his own, but I can't get excited over a bunch of `93-os in 55 or less.

beartracks42 · December 24, 2004 6:55AM

Guys,

Pardon me if I do not throw away my PCGS AU55 1893-O.

edited for spelling: what else?

morgannut2 · December 24, 2004 10:21AM

Trust me, forget the pop's, there are HUNDREDS of Morgan collectors missing a 93O in any kind of shape! When those AU's show up on the registrys, that's one more coin others will seek urgently. I had to pay silly money for a lowly 62, and would have been happy with a nice AU in original condition instead, but couldn't find one I liked!!!

KenzoT · December 24, 2004 10:39AM

Please settle down, dudes!
You have NO IDEA what is coming out of this!

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 24, 2004 10:39AM

Kenzo, like I said earlier- i'll take a 81cc in a 64 and a 93-o in xf- pm me on pricing- I'm sure we can work something out before end of year.

I'll take it in xf for now, and will upgrade when the market levels off, unless the au is at a nice price, then Ill take an au55 instead.

lava · December 24, 2004 11:47AM

<< Please settle down, dudes!
You have NO IDEA what is coming out of this! >>

kryptonitecomics · December 24, 2004 11:52AM

What's a 93-O in Au55 worth????

BAJJERFAN · December 24, 2004 12:27PM

Steve Estes is paying $1100 for nice ones so maybe $1250 I would guess.

KenzoT · December 24, 2004 1:05PM

THANKS LAVA,
You just made up my mind to NEVER AGAIN share anything with anyone about this!
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!
Stupid idiots like you should keep your mouths shut and keep people guessing if you are an IDIOT or not!
I've had it!
NO MORE INFO, FOLFS!
All offers are off on the BST Board and all info on this once in a lifetime deal are gone.
Thank LAVA! Freakin idiot!

100proof1957 · December 24, 2004 1:17PM

Lava,

read your sig line again.

lava · December 24, 2004 4:41PM

I'm tired of being told how wonderful this hoard is on this forum -- it's all a bunch of sales hype. And the hype is unreal.

As for my sig line, I am treating others the way I want to be treated. I don't hype my coins, and I certainly wouldn't stoop so low as to attempt to do it in this forum. I also never resorted to name-calling.

When this thread started, we were told not to drool over these coins. I could play the coin idiot and be impressed, or I could tell it like it is -- the populations of the grades you received are so great that the coins are simply nothing to get excited about. If that is an insult, so be it. You want me to get excited, then get better grades. Who are these people getting excited over an 1893-o in au55? They can buy mine.

I have seen coins from this hoard on ebay -- and to me they aren't very attractive.

I didn't bring the sales pitch here, but I certainly don't have to sit hear and listen to all the hyped up crap and not respond.

Kenzo, yes, please do us all of the favor of not hyping this hoard again on this forum.

My guess is you will anyway.

morgannut2 · December 24, 2004 5:26PM

Hey Lava relax it's Christmas--no better yet please vote no to all the dealers stuffing the ballot box saying it's OK and good for the hobby to sell common date ordinary stuff at 50% ABOVE RETAIL. Look at the fraud poll, amazing.

Gonfunko · December 24, 2004 6:00PM

<< I'm tired of being told how wonderful this hoard is on this forum -- it's all a bunch of sales hype. And the hype is unreal.

As for my sig line, I am treating others the way I want to be treated. I don't hype my coins, and I certainly wouldn't stoop so low as to attempt to do it in this forum. I also never resorted to name-calling.

When this thread started, we were told not to drool over these coins. I could play the coin idiot and be impressed, or I could tell it like it is -- the populations of the grades you received are so great that the coins are simply nothing to get excited about. If that is an insult, so be it. You want me to get excited, then get better grades. Who are these people getting excited over an 1893-o in au55? They can buy mine.

I have seen coins from this hoard on ebay -- and to me they aren't very attractive.

I didn't bring the sales pitch here, but I certainly don't have to sit hear and listen to all the hyped up crap and not respond.

Kenzo, yes, please do us all of the favor of not hyping this hoard again on this forum.

My guess is you will anyway. >>

Geez! IMHO, I wouldn't call it a sales pitch - it's not as though he's offering the coins for sale here or something. I can't wait to see the next batch of grades - whether you like it or not, the quantity of amazing coins is just that - amazing! Please keep posting the reuslts.

Wolf359 · December 24, 2004 6:59PM

I'm tired of being told how wonderful this hoard is on this forum -- it's all a bunch of sales hype.

I don't see the sales hype either. He's got one post on the BST board in 6 months, and I don't even know the guy's ebay id...KenzoT turns up no listings for the past 30 days.

INXS · December 24, 2004 8:23PM

As with all of KenzoT's posts it is alway prefaced with a title that is self explantory. If anyone doesnt want to read it you are not being forced to, so dont open it. I find these posts informative as do the other 99.9% of the people reading them. The choice is yours if you decide to read the post then deal with it.

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 24, 2004 8:35PM

I

with Inxs and the rest of the forum on this- he was not selling anything here- he merely was showing off what he got back in grades hell I would to if this was a sub that I just got back from the Gods in Newport.

Lava- as the saying goes in these parts- if you don't like it - DON'T LOOK!

Now ya pisd him off, can't wait to see what grades you post in the future, maybe you will get flamed for attempting to hype your goodies.

Hey everyone it's Xmas......

lava · December 25, 2004 2:53AM

If Kenzo wishes to post grades, I'd prefer he post them without telling me how to react to them. I don't need to be told not to drool on my keyboard, which I do consider nothing but sales hype. It is common knowledge that as this hoard goes through PCGS, it ends up on ebay. That is the comment that set me off. I thought it was fair game to add my opinion that I didn't think those grades were particularly rare.

If you disagree with my opinion, sorry you feel as you do.

As for being called an ass by Kenzo because I'm not drooling over his coins, he showed his true colors.

Sunnywood · December 25, 2004 3:28AM

Why is it that every thread here ends up in name-calling and ill will. How unfortunate. Peoiple should really lighten up and enjoy the hobby.

By the way, the '93-O in the upcoming Superior Sale at FUN is definitely one to get excited about ... PCGS MS66PL, beautifully toned, ex Eliasberg, and in my opinion it is the finest known specimen. Now that's exciting !!!

However, to a collector who is on the treasure hunt to complete a set of Morgans, and for whom the '93-O is needed in an affordable grade, buying a nice AU could be just as exciting !!!

Merry Christmas,
Sunnywood

SarasotaFrank · December 25, 2004 3:33AM

get a little too much coal in your stocking lava?

This guy came on the board with outlandish reports about coins he had come upon and the majority of the members looked at it with jaundiced eye. Lo and behold, time goes by and it appears he was telling the truth and has posted the grades. It turns out it is a really interesting and intriquing story, and I think a number of folks have enjoyed watching this unfold.

"Don't drool" is comedy, not being told how to view the grades.

Since it is Christmas, perhaps we should all treat others as we want to be treated.

oh wait . . .

100proof1957 · December 25, 2004 3:35AM

Gee Whiz

I didnt see an offer to sell anything from the hoard !

KenzoT · December 25, 2004 9:46AM

This is my final goodby.
Evertyone thank Lava!

100proof1957 · March 29, 2005 2:27PM

100proof1957 · March 29, 2005 2:30PM

Wheres LAVA ?

Russ · March 30, 2005 2:33AM

Proof,

Were we running short of flame wars?

Russ, NCNE

Bochiman · March 30, 2005 2:47AM

If we really are running short on flame wars, just let me know....I have a couple sitting in my pocket that I keep put away but could really stir up the board

paigowjohnny · March 30, 2005 3:54AM

<< Well, I see the price of 93-Os coming down >>

GREAT !! I need a solid AU

centmaster · March 30, 2005 3:58AM

<< This is my final goodby.
Evertyone thank Lava! >>

Please- Say it ain't so! Don't let one bad apple ruin it for everyone. Keep posting your results. We like living vicariously through you! No one seems to agree with this Lava person's views, anyway.

Next Lee Hoard submission results are in......

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