After giving your question much deep thought, I have arrived at my opinion. PCGS will either grade the coin, not grade the coin, or will misplace the coin. I feel confident that my opinion will be confirmed as accurate. When it is I will consider becoming a weatherman and then predict (a la George Carlin) that we can expect "dark" in tonight's forecast, followed tomorrow morning by "widely scattered light".
the obverse spots and the reverse look almost believeable, but the overall color doesn't seem legit. i'll say they will return it with a smiley-faced-winking bodybag and a note to your parents about that chemistry set.
I have seen proof coins still in the original packaging with close to the colors of your coin(more red). It just might holder. Russ...Did you find it in a mint issue proof set?
a pity that 130 of us can grade (or no grade) the coin via internet pix in two days, yet pcgs is going to take a quarter of a year to get it back to you.
anyway, here's hoping pcgs issues their first * slab for this one...............
I voted BB also Does this mean that PCGS is starting to understand what the term "Market Acceptable" means? Should I send in this 57 Washington I got from Baley as quickly as possible? Should Russ resubmit this 1950 Washington that got a BB? Thanks for your thoughts!!! Lee
I've actually seen other coins w/ toning similar to this one.
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To me it looks like it was toned by a Whitman (or similar type) folder, accounting for the way it toned somewhat evenly on the reverse. The obverse is a little puzzling though. I wouldn't expect it to be as splotchy.
Thought that '87 was nice- "That 1887 is so NT you could use it for a presentation on what real toning is supposed to look like" (old thread)-- On the other hand, I'm surprised the Kennedy was graded, although I voted NT. Was is submitted in the mint packaging to help them??
Yes!!! Got it right. Russ....I doubt your note you put in the flip helped any to get in this coin into a holder. I sent PCGS a similar red toned 1964 Proof Kennedy still in the original US mint cello package. What did PCGS do...they cut it out of the proof package and placed it in a bodybag. I can laugh about it now, but at the time I was MAD.
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First inclination tells me they will BB it, but from what i really know about toners it could actually grade.
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<< <i>Russ: I think they'll give you the old "questionable toning" BB on this one.
There's nothing questionable about that toning.
It was baked in a puddle of oil for awhile.
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the obverse spots and the reverse look almost believeable, but the overall color doesn't seem legit. i'll say they will return it with a smiley-faced-winking bodybag and a note to your parents about that chemistry set.
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Russ...Did you find it in a mint issue proof set?
<< <i>Russ...Did you find it in a mint issue proof set? >>
Yep.
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anyway, here's hoping pcgs issues their first * slab for this one...............
<< <i>The coin will be returned in a body bag with the initials HRH chopmarked into the obverse. >>
No chopmarks, just fingerprints.
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<< <i>Does this mean that PCGS is starting to understand what the term "Market Acceptable" means? >>
It might be the little note I put inside the flip letting the graders know that it came from the proof set toned like that.
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I've actually seen other coins w/ toning similar to this one.
-g
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Speak to me of loved ones, favorite places and things, loves lost and gained, tears shed for joy and sorrow, of when I see the sparkle in your eye ...
and the blackness when the dream dies, of lovers, fools, adventurers and kings while I sip my wine and contemplate the Chi.
Where did it come from Russ?
Russ....I doubt your note you put in the flip helped any to get in this coin into a holder. I sent PCGS a similar red toned 1964 Proof Kennedy still in the original US mint cello package. What did PCGS do...they cut it out of the proof package and placed it in a bodybag.
<< <i>Was is submitted in the mint packaging to help them?? >>
Nope.
<< <i>Russ....I doubt your note you put in the flip helped any to get in this coin into a holder. >>
I know. They've ignored my notes before. I still do it though, just for the hell of it.
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<< <i><< Russ....I doubt your note you put in the flip helped any to get in this coin into a holder. >>
I know. They've ignored my notes before. I still do it though, just for the hell of it.
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Russ just likes sending love notes to the graders!