1889cc Morgan opinions on grade and value

Vet · November 27, 2004 6:45AM

I'm thinking it might go G4 what do you think.

kieferscoins · November 27, 2004 6:48AM

AG-03.

Cameron Kiefer

MrEureka · November 27, 2004 6:48AM

Well, I'm sure as hell not sayin' "yeah, right".

jdimmick · November 27, 2004 6:57AM

Yes it will grade G-4 minimum. Your allowed to have some rim blending in Good.

Vet · November 27, 2004 7:33AM

Thanks I thought the rim blending would pass for G4 I was more concerned with the rim hits at 1:00 and 6:30 would this be called rim damage.

Larry

coinandcurrency242 · November 27, 2004 7:40AM

G-4 prolly would go around 50 I would say.

DorkGirl · November 27, 2004 7:56AM

$50? At that price I would buy every single one that you could get your hands on!! Please!!

At the very least, I believe that coin is worth 3X that price.

coinbuf · November 27, 2004 7:59AM

G-4 at least, very close to VG.

Chris

Vet · November 27, 2004 8:03AM

I like the way you think Becky. It's not for sale just curious as to what approx. value it would have with the rim hits and being as worn as it is.

ccex · November 27, 2004 8:06AM

Is it the picture, or does this coin look cleaned? Or does it even matter in Good?

My experience in buying old silver with this appearance is that the seller does not say it is cleaned (even when asked specifically), but buyers offer a low price saying the same coin has been cleaned. All part of the game, I guess.

jdimmick · November 27, 2004 8:36AM

Same here, Id drain every bit of cash capital and then some to buy 89-cc at 50.00 bucks, then flip in less than an 1hr.

VG bid ask is 460/500. If this coin were tpg'd I can see it fetching 300-350 easily?

Vet · November 27, 2004 8:42AM

I don't know if it matters if its cleaned in good or not. I my opinion I would say its been cleaned sometime in its past ,I have had it for more than 30 years so it would of had to been before that.

kieferscoins · November 27, 2004 8:43AM

Almost VG? Talk about gradeflation!

Cameron Kiefer

DorkGirl · November 27, 2004 9:10AM

Here is a quick scan of my AG for comparison:

DennisH · November 27, 2004 9:21AM

Good-4 for sure, and it looks cleaned. I agree with $300 value estimate.

wam98 · November 27, 2004 9:26AM

Vet and DorkGirl.

Vet · November 27, 2004 9:40AM

Mine seems to have a little more detail, enough to move it to G4 not sure.

Thanks Larry

clw54 · November 27, 2004 10:04AM

Probably G4. My PCGS AG03 is a lot more worn than that. The photos below are from when it was raw.

Vet · November 27, 2004 10:13AM

This was the first one I sent to ANNACS they say the rim filed net VF 20

DorkGirl · November 27, 2004 10:51AM

Oh, I like this. "This was the first one I sent" This is starting to look more like a mini hoard. Keep them coming!! I have one more to add, then unfortunately I'm done. But my dealer told me the other day he has a roll coming in

A little beat up and crusty, but I like her

Vet · November 27, 2004 11:08AM

No mini hoard becky that was my last 89cc just two, love to see yours though.

morgannut2 · November 27, 2004 11:40AM

Lets see the Cameron Kiefer grade was AG-3 which makes it ar least a G-6! Seriously the coin has been washed which hurts it, but if you stick it in the sun for a few months it will get some color back to look nicer. NO I don't mean AT, it's a low grade coin and it will help with seeing the worn details. I have one with same wear (dark) in an NGC G-4 holder and a dealer offered me $375 for it. They go for $425 to $550 at Heritage.

kieferscoins · November 27, 2004 11:42AM

The thing is I don't think it would get a G-04 grade at NGC or PCGS. The cleaning bumps it down. ANACS would say Good details net AG-03.

Cameron Kiefer

jdsinva · November 27, 2004 11:48AM

Can I add mine to the parade of 1889-CC coming out tonight?

Jeff

morgannut2 · November 27, 2004 11:58AM

C.K.----I was pulling your leg Cameron because I was up all night fighting to not only prove a fake 1895 was fake, but searching to find out the dies that the fake Morgan started as (see pages 8,9,10, on the 1895 Proof debate). You actually have sense of humer but sorry if you took the joke wrong. It's probably a no grade if there are lots of non random hairlines. The AG cut-off I've found is the definition along the edge of Liberty's face, and if the rims merge to the letters on the reverse. My 1889CC went to NGC because it is very rare to find a dark, undipped, original and unrimdinged (a word?) example. They probably kicked it up to G-4 for condition. By the way your write up on slabs was very lucid and I enjoyed reading it.

Vet · November 27, 2004 12:05PM

Very nice jeff

I'm not sure but I think acetone would remove the green I'm sure someone here would know for sure.

jdsinva · November 27, 2004 12:31PM

Thanks! I'm not sure there is any green on this coin. The coin is actually a bit darker than what this image would indicate, particularly on the obverse. There is quite a bit of luster still in the peripherial areas but I have a hard time trying to capture it in the image. Actually, I just bought some acetone on Wednesday for another coin I have that had a clump of crud on it. I'm kind of leary to try and mess with this coin because, as you can guess, I have quite a bit tied up in it and I would hate to do something stupid with it.

Jeff

morgannut2 · November 27, 2004 12:32PM

Nice one Jeff. Soak it for a few minutes in acetone just to make sure theres no PVC or other harmful stuff. Rince in lots of water to in case there's anything else water soluable that will hurt also.

BAJJERFAN · November 27, 2004 12:53PM

Why not one more?

Vet · November 27, 2004 1:04PM

Very nice the more they come the better they get.

morgannut2 · November 27, 2004 1:10PM

I'd show my '89CC AU too. but the dealer I got it from didn't leave me with enough money to buy a scanner!!!

cointagious · November 27, 2004 11:44PM

I vote G6.

1889cc Morgan opinions on grade and value

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