Technically a variety, but a major error at the Mint resulted in the obverse die falling on the reverse die before this 1880 IH was struck. The overlay shows the position of the die when it hit.
Andy - pretty rare, the FlyInClub census lists 21 known, 11 in MS. Goldbergs had a 65RD listed in their Long Beach sale, though it's tough to see the detail in their image. I think Rick Snow jumped on that one.
a major error at the Mint resulted in the obverse die falling on the reverse die
Looks like the obverse die did more than "fall". It SLAMMED into the reverse die. The obverse die actually reached into the recesses of the E of "ONE". Yet the clash only shows a small portion of the obverse die. I wonder if the dies hit at a sharp angle, but I cannot imagine how that could happen. I also wonder if the clash could have come from a broken off piece of the previous obverse die. Do you know of any cud variety that might be related to this coin?
In any event, fascinating coin! I want one.
Andy Lustig
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It SLAMMED into the reverse die. The obverse die actually reached into the recesses of the E of "ONE". Yet the clash only shows a small portion of the obverse die. I wonder if the dies hit at a sharp angle, but I cannot imagine how that could happen.
It's a mysterious error which is part of its charm. I haven't been able to find any details on how it occurred. The obverse die struck the reverse die at an extreme angle and with great force (or a great hight) -- as you noted only a small portion of the obverse die made an impression, very deeply. Any ideas?
as you noted only a small portion of the obverse die made an impression, very deeply. Any ideas?
Like I said before, the clash could have been made by a severed piece of a broken die. Now, let's find the cud variety struck before these clashed die coins.
Andy Lustig
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<< <i>It SLAMMED into the reverse die. The obverse die actually reached into the recesses of the E of "ONE". Yet the clash only shows a small portion of the obverse die. I wonder if the dies hit at a sharp angle, but I cannot imagine how that could happen.
It's a mysterious error which is part of its charm. I haven't been able to find any details on how it occurred. The obverse die struck the reverse die at an extreme angle and with great force (or a great hight) -- as you noted only a small portion of the obverse die made an impression, very deeply. Any ideas? >>
You haven't even mentioned the cherry on top of this coin - the obverse is a nice doubled die visible on LIBERTY. The clash is a PUP for the variety in low grades.
Sean Reynolds
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This was my icon coin for a while. 191x (probably 1919) Lincoln with five clips - curved, two overlapping curved, rim, and ragged:
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
These two dimes are fraternal twins. Two planchets were fed into the strike chamber at the same time. When they were struck, both coins were out of collar producing partial images of the obverse on, a partial image of the reverse on the other and ghost images on the opposite sides. These coins were somehow found together, and they are now in a PCGS two holder set.
P.S. These coins are for sale as a set of two pieces. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thanks.
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peacockcoins
4 coins showing progression!
San Diego, CA
They look like two pairs, how can you tell they are 4 coins showing progression?
San Diego, CA
Because I have all 4!
Here is another error..
Tom
San Diego, CA
Double Denom.
San Diego, CA
<< <i>Double Denom. >>
Did you notice that the Double struck dime I posted is a double denomination also?
San Diego, CA
Partial collar "railroad rim" dime.
peacockcoins
San Diego, CA
He did not said whoes.
San Diego, CA
Flipover double strike in collar!
San Diego, CA
San Diego, CA
Later state of same type error:
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1880 S1 Off-Center Reverse Clash
<< <i>Not mine.
Heh, 'Huge B/S'. Does that mean it's fake?
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
Paul - I don't recognize that one. How rare is it?
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Looks like the obverse die did more than "fall". It SLAMMED into the reverse die. The obverse die actually reached into the recesses of the E of "ONE". Yet the clash only shows a small portion of the obverse die. I wonder if the dies hit at a sharp angle, but I cannot imagine how that could happen. I also wonder if the clash could have come from a broken off piece of the previous obverse die. Do you know of any cud variety that might be related to this coin?
In any event, fascinating coin! I want one.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
i have a %40 Ike clip that's nice but no pic. Easy to imagine
It's a mysterious error which is part of its charm. I haven't been able to find any details on how it occurred. The obverse die struck the reverse die at an extreme angle and with great force (or a great hight) -- as you noted only a small portion of the obverse die made an impression, very deeply. Any ideas?
Like I said before, the clash could have been made by a severed piece of a broken die. Now, let's find the cud variety struck before these clashed die coins.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
<< <i>It SLAMMED into the reverse die. The obverse die actually reached into the recesses of the E of "ONE". Yet the clash only shows a small portion of the obverse die. I wonder if the dies hit at a sharp angle, but I cannot imagine how that could happen.
It's a mysterious error which is part of its charm. I haven't been able to find any details on how it occurred. The obverse die struck the reverse die at an extreme angle and with great force (or a great hight) -- as you noted only a small portion of the obverse die made an impression, very deeply. Any ideas? >>
You haven't even mentioned the cherry on top of this coin - the obverse is a nice doubled die visible on LIBERTY. The clash is a PUP for the variety in low grades.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
P.S. These coins are for sale as a set of two pieces. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thanks.