Toning question

edsiajb · August 2, 2004 1:53PM

At our recent coin show, a dealer had about 10 proof Jefferson's (mostly from the 60's) that were toned DEEP purple and blue. I could not believe how dark and colorful they were. They were all NGC. What would have toned them so evenly and colorful? I wanted to buy one but every time I went by the table, the dealer was either AWOL or busy with someone else.

Myqqy · August 2, 2004 2:03PM

Many of the proof jeffersons from the 60's have that uniform, deep toning. Others with a more scientific background could explain better, but the nickel composition and the cellophane material reacted well together and would often times produce very nice blues, golds, light purples, etc....

Crackout · August 2, 2004 2:05PM

I think it is simply the cello packaging.

darktone · August 2, 2004 8:53PM

Crackout your coin is the typical proof set toned nickel. I think the colors edsiajb talks about are those AT looking ones that they say PCGS won't certify anymore? mike

edsiajb · August 2, 2004 9:33PM

Yes...they were very dark. I wondered if they might have been AT but I didn't think they would have been certified NGC if so.

braddick · August 2, 2004 10:22PM

<< Yes...they were very dark. I wondered if they might have been AT but I didn't think they would have been certified NGC if so. >>

did it look like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41088&item=3923757699

If so, I don't believe PCGS nor NGC are grading those anymore and haven't been for a few months now.

edsiajb · August 2, 2004 10:58PM

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<< Yes...they were very dark. I wondered if they might have been AT but I didn't think they would have been certified NGC if so. >>

did it look like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41088&item=3923757699

If so, I don't believe PCGS nor NGC are grading those anymore and haven't been for a few months now. >>

YES! They were just like that and darker. So I should assume these are AT, right?

braddick · August 3, 2004 1:39AM

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<< Yes...they were very dark. I wondered if they might have been AT but I didn't think they would have been certified NGC if so. >>

did it look like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41088&item=3923757699 If so, I don't believe PCGS nor NGC are grading those anymore and haven't been for a few months now. >>

YES! They were just like that and darker. So I should assume these are AT, right? >>

No. Some are legit. It takes 10X to spot the fakes.

XpipedreamR · August 3, 2004 5:25AM

What would you see under magnification that would indicate AT?

braddick · August 3, 2004 6:50AM

<< What would you see under magnification that would indicate AT? >>

A hint of speckled crustiness, for the lack of a better term. The real ones have smooth, even color that blends INTO the proof surfaces.

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