Wildly toned clad Kennedy

fivecents · June 9, 2004 11:36AM

Hopefully PCGS won't put it in a sac.

Placid · June 9, 2004 11:38AM

Who knows with pcgs

airplanenut · June 9, 2004 11:38AM

Looks cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it to be slabbed...

Russ · June 9, 2004 11:39AM

You might as well stick it in a flip with a label that has the coin number and AT written on it. Homemade bodybags are $12 less than the one you'd get at PCGS.

Russ, NCNE

fivecents · June 9, 2004 11:44AM

Thanks Placid.

I know it doesn't matter to PCGS, but this is a end roller. I bought 8 rolls that were in the orginal paper wrappers. This is the best toner of a group of six.
Russ....I would love to make a wager that this coin will get holdered by PCGS(on the 1st try).

Russ · June 9, 2004 11:47AM

<< Russ....I would love to make a wager that this coin will get holdered by PCGS(on the 1st try). >>

How about the grading fee?

Russ, NCNE

FC57Coins · June 9, 2004 11:48AM

I was going to say - it looks like an end roller - interesting pastel colors - get it graded Pauly!

fivecents · June 9, 2004 11:51AM

<< How about the grading fee? >>

How about a PCGS graded accented hair Kennedy.

Russ · June 9, 2004 11:56AM

And, you're putting up what?

Russ, NCNE

K6AZ · June 9, 2004 11:58AM

Looks like a tonecoin2003 special to me. My money is on Russ.

fivecents · June 9, 2004 11:59AM

A PCGS graded Accented hair Kennedy in PR66.

TonedCoinTrader · June 9, 2004 12:01PM

I'd Like to see that coin in hand. I have seen some NT clads with colors like that before.

Scott

stman · June 9, 2004 12:02PM

Eye-vay.... see what FC57coins started? Now these are coming outta the wood-work like toned Morgans.

Placid · June 9, 2004 12:03PM

The colors don't all have that neon glow like some coins and seems to have some depth not see thru.
I think it will slab at pcgs, first try or fifth who knows.

Russ · June 9, 2004 12:04PM

<< A PCGS graded Accented hair Kennedy in PR66. >>

You're putting one up? I'm putting one up? Which is it, and what's the other end of the bet?

BTW, the coin might very well be natural, I just don't think PCGS will grade it.

Russ, NCNE

FrattLaw · June 9, 2004 12:09PM

NT to me -- not terribly attractive but NT none-the-less and I'll bet it gets slabbed on the 1st go. I think the fingerprint confirms NT status.

<< You might as well stick it in a flip with a label that has the coin number and AT written on it >>

<< BTW, the coin might very well be natural, I just don't think PCGS will grade it. >>

Michael

Russ · June 9, 2004 12:11PM

<< I think the fingerprint confirms NT status. >>

That's not a fingerprint, it's a toning break.

Russ, NCNE

Tonelover · June 9, 2004 12:12PM

Looks real to me. I don't have an Accented Hair Kennedy to bet though.

fivecents · June 9, 2004 12:12PM

<< You're putting one up? I'm putting one up? Which is it, and what's the other end of the bet? >>

It is a bet. We both put up a PCGS PR66 AH Kennedy. If it bags I pay up, if it holders you pay up.

MS68 · June 9, 2004 12:16PM

Russ- It looks good to me from what I can tell from the scan. How about a friendly wager of $100 to keep this interesting?

Russ · June 9, 2004 12:16PM

<< It is a bet. We both put up a PCGS PR66 AH Kennedy. If it bags I pay up, if it holders you pay up. >>

That works, I have one left graded that low. You're on.

Russ, NCNE

stman · June 9, 2004 12:17PM

<< I think the fingerprint confirms NT status. >>

Question..... I've heard this theory before and sometimes it can help. This could have been pulled from a roll and be NT. But just because it's pulled from a roll, or what others say from mint sets, cello etc, it don't really mean it's lock NT.

Now the FP theory..... you don't think someone good could put a FP in with some AT? Just like some AT coins that all the diagnostics look good. There are guys out there that just look for upgrades to enhance a bit of a problem area. Think about it.

Russ · June 9, 2004 12:17PM

<< How about a friendly wager of $100 to keep this interesting? >>

MS68,

Tip change for you. No thanks.

Russ, NCNE

Rob790 · June 9, 2004 12:21PM

Didn't a member post a beautifully toned SAE with a fingerprints on the reverse that was slabbed AT a few days ago? Almost any diagnostic of NT can be copied on an AT coin. I think it all depends on the overall look and not any particular diagnostic. This one looks natural but will it slab as such? I'll wait and see...

TonedCoinTrader · June 9, 2004 12:23PM

I'm sure there are AT'ers or "Coin Doctors" that put a nice little finger print on the untoned coin just before attemping to Tone it, So I wouldn't use the "it has a finger print so it's NT" example. JMHO.

Scott

fivecents · June 9, 2004 12:23PM

<< That works, I have one left graded that low. You're on. >>

Damn... My PR66 AH is the highset one I have graded in my AH stash.

It's a bet then. I will post the invoice number and piggyback it in with my next modern submission. I will send it off next week.

FrattLaw · June 9, 2004 12:23PM

<< Now the FP theory..... you don't think someone good could put a FP in with some AT? Just like some AT coins that all the diagnostics look good. There are guys out there that just look for upgrades to enhance a bit of a problem area. Think about it. >>

You're a 100% correct, but when taken in context of the story provided by fivecents, I think its a lock NT coin. Whether PCGS bags it -- who knows. And Stman -- we are talking about a Kennedy half here, not a beautiful Bust Half.

Why would someone add a FP to try to fool anyone in this case?

Michael

stman · June 9, 2004 12:25PM

I know I know, but when I hear "the fingerprint confirms NT" I just shudder.

FrattLaw · June 9, 2004 12:26PM

Everything in context.

Michael

TonedCoinTrader · June 9, 2004 12:27PM

<<Why would someone add a FP to try to fool anyone in this case?>>

Ask tonecoin2003. If he thought it would "fool" more people into thinking it was NT on this coin. (test it out on a cheep'y) then try it on the
"Big Money Example"

Scott

darktone · June 9, 2004 12:27PM

It's only a picture but the coins looks like it has a pretty good shot at being holdered. mike

stman · June 9, 2004 12:29PM

<< You're a 100% correct, but when taken in context of the story provided by fivecents, >>

BTW, yeah buy the story. But like you said it's just a JFK so what does it matter.... Not that there is anything wrong with JFK's mind you.

Russ · June 9, 2004 12:32PM

<< Damn... My PR66 AH is the highset one I have graded in my AH stash. >>

Well, a while back I decided to trim down to 50 and have been selling off coins as new ones are graded, starting at the bottom and working up. The one PR66 I have left is a very nice example that looks like a PR68. If you win the bet, you'll look at it and wonder if the graders were stoned when it came in.

Russ, NCNE

Placid · June 9, 2004 12:33PM

Wildly toned clad Kennedy

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