Newbie needs help

Geod · June 7, 2004 2:19AM

Newbie here.

I've been browsing this board for a few months, but never had the nerve to ask a question. But all of a sudden, I got brave.

Can anyone provide information on this coin. I assume it is from the civil war period.
It has a piece missing from it. After reading some of the comments on this board, I think the term is clipped????

Is there any value to this coin?

Thanks

Geod

jhar · June 7, 2004 2:23AM

First off, Welcome to the Forum. You should not worry about some of the old crusties around here and post more often.

Second Looks like some kind of Civil War Token. Don't know anything about it, that 's just a guess. I'm sure others here will chime in and tell you more about it.

Later

mercurynut · June 7, 2004 2:27AM

JrGMan2004 · June 7, 2004 2:27AM

Where's Bill Jones? He could tell you... and that looks like a clip to me...

seanq · June 7, 2004 2:28AM

Welcome aboard. It is a Civil War Token, I'll have to leave it to others to attribute it. It looks like it's in great shape, though.

What I can tell you is that the clip appears genuine (i.e. it was an incomplete planchet before striking, and not damaged after striking). Clips on CWTs aren't all that unusual, so any value for the piece will not come from it being an error.

Sean Reynolds

coinguy1 · June 7, 2004 2:34AM

Geod, how DARE you come here and ask questions like that?

I know virtually nothing about Civil War tokens but if you do a Google search under "army navy Civil War tokens" you can at least find a few asking prices for some (without planchet clips) that have been available for sale.

nOoBiEeE · June 7, 2004 3:44AM

Welcome Geod, I also know nothing about this but hopefully this post bump will be read by someone who does. Threads seems to go to page 2-3 and son on pretty quick around here.

Dennis88 · June 7, 2004 3:48AM

wjd283 · June 7, 2004 3:53AM

Nice token!I'm not that knowledgeable about them tho.Just wanted to say welcome to the forums.This is the only place I know where you can get educated and have fun at the same time.

mgoodm3 · June 7, 2004 4:00AM

Welcome. I don't know anything about civil war tokens either.

poorguy · June 7, 2004 4:14AM

welcome to the boards Geod,

Here's a link to one very similar to yours.

Coin in the link
Patriotic Civil War token from dies 6B/309. "Army & Navy" mottto.

Your Coin

It looks as though it has the same design but maybe a different obverse die because the date is much closer to the rim in the eBay example.

I'd suggest clicking on the auction link and contacting the seller. Seems he knows much more about this piece than I would.

kranky · June 7, 2004 4:19AM

I would say that is a genuine clip (as opposed to someone fooling with it to make it look genuine) because it shows the "Blakesley effect". That's an area of weakness on the rim directly opposite the clip, which demonstrates the clip was already there when the coin was struck.

BillJones · June 7, 2004 4:23AM

These liberty head pieces with "Army & Navy" on the reverse can be bears to attribute, but I think that this one is a Fuld 8/314a. It's an R-1, which means that it is common. Of course the most common Civil War token variety is rarer than a 1909-S-VDB cent.

I think that the planchet clip is natural not damage. It won't add anything to the value, and could lower it a little for some collectors. The value is in the $12 to $14 range.

JrGMan2004 · June 7, 2004 4:27AM

Yup, Bill knew...

richbeat · June 7, 2004 4:54PM

Welcome aboard!

prooflike · June 7, 2004 5:26PM

Geod · June 7, 2004 10:47PM

Geod · June 7, 2004 10:50PM

To everyone,

THANK YOU

Thanks for all the great information and thanks for ALL the warm welcomes.

Hope to be posting more in the very near future

Have a great day!

Geod

Shamika · June 7, 2004 11:01PM

Just in case you decide to go HARDCORE...

Newbie needs help

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