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Check Out this Guys E-Bay Auction Fraud!!!!!!!!

Check out this guys ebay auction. Whay happened did PCGS change there slabs while I wasn't looking. I'am I reading this right, this guy saying that this coin is a pcgs pr70dc, or am I reading this wrong. If this isn't fraud I don't know what is. image Here is the link below.

Dave

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    Looks like fraud to me. I'd report it to PCGS. Although I don't see PCGS on the slab..

    I wonder how he got the slab sealed...surely he cannot own a sonic sealer. Duct tape? image
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    PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Maybe Conder knows what generation slab that is image
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    Any guesses on how many days it takes to get pulled?
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    cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Complaint sent let's see if eBay does anything.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
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    Coinguy1, time to position your strike team for this easy kill. How convenient the glare obscures the "certification" number.

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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    Gee, I wonder why his feedback is private?
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is not a PCGS slab of any generation, rather, it is from PCC (Premier Certified Coins).

    Lane
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks "Astrorat" for knowing the correct grading service. PCC is a new one to me. I thought is was POS.
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    OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always felt that private FB was a crock of $hit. The only time you ever see people use it is when their FB sucks to begin with.
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    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe it's from Louis Revels (Chattanooga Coin Co) who was the founder of PCI. I've noticed he is selling alot of these slabs in his ads in CW and the fliers he sends in the mail. It is my understanding he has started a new "grading" service.
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    MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    Should one send a friendly email to the bidder?????image
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    Who the heck cares what kind of slab it is? The coin is UGLY !
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,850 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe Conder knows what generation slab that is image >>



    I think that it's generation X. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    nOoBiEeEnOoBiEeE Posts: 1,011 ✭✭
    image I love threads like this, let's rally the troops!!!
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    Don't bother with the bidder. From looking at his past wins this guy would buy
    anything and pay anything. $137.00 for a MS 69 1996 Silver Eagle?????? Not me!
    He also buys hologram coins..............ugh!!!!!!!!

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh calm down, it could be an honest mistake.























    Nahhhhhh! image
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    In his other items he has more of the same,also calling them PCGS.He needs to stick with knives.Or should I say,He needs to be stuck with his knives.
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    AValdeAValde Posts: 299


    << <i>$137.00 for a MS 69 1996 Silver Eagle >>



    Frauds and swindlers will florish when people are willing to pay.

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    JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557
    He canceled the auction and relisted it as a "PCC" slab
    -George
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    cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Maybe eBay actually took action for once.
    Bill

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    Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Another possiblity would be TMM (The Merrick Mint) They use an identical slab and front label style. The only diferences are on the back label. So far though, the only items I have seen from TMM have been Gold USE and colorized state quarters.

    Ok I see that he has corected the action and it is a PCC.
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    ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529
    I politely emailed the seller and mentioned that he might have made a mistake in his listing? I described to him that it looked to me like it was a PCC slab and not a PCGS. He sent me a nice reply stating he was in a hurry and made an honest mistake. Thanking me for letting him know. He closed the auction and relisted it with the correct indentification.

    Sometimes these "frauds", as some of you are so quick to jump all over, are just simple mistakes. Some times you have to give people a little slack and not be soooo quick to jump on the "hang 'em high" bandwagon. We all make mistakes.

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    PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    With 32 negs and 6 neutrals out of 355 I am sure it was a honest mistake image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    With 32 negs, he's still selling on Ebay? A bourse dealer should be so lucky. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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