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ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
Interesting issue...many years back one of my coin clubs (which I am now president) had issue with a YN...I do not know the whole story...way before my time....however they changed the rules to no YN's....does anyone see any reason to exclude YN's? any legal thoughts? thanks for your views...I wish to reopen the issue to allow YN's to join the club but that is my own viewpoint...
Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com

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  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557
    I think YNs should be allowed, YNs are the future of the hobby... but I can see how in certain clubs, like "Country Club" Coin Clubs, that YNs would not be welcome, and YNs would not want to go....
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I can't think of any reason to exclude YNs. Perhaps they shouldn't be eligible to hold office, but other than that I can't imagine why they would be banned. On second thought, I guess if the club met at a bar, that would be a problem.

    YN or not, can't the club expel ANY member if necessary? No reason to bar every YN just because there might be a problem with one of them.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    If you exclude YN's your coin club will get old and crusty like the Elks or VFW (not the they exclude young people, but around me they are old crusty dying organizations). Let em back in.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    YNs should be welcome at clubs, but in most states that rules about contracts and what rights those who have not reached their majority have. Dealers who make sales to YNs need to realize that in many cases they can break their contracts whenever they please.

    One of the worst laws is in Massachusetts. A "child" there can buy something and then come back anytime, demand their money back AND get to KEEP the item. The lesson is don't make contracts with a minor unless the parent or guardian approves.

    Some of today’s more sophisticated young people know these rules and could be in a position to use them. If they were to act in that cynical manner, I could see where a YN could become not welcome at a club.
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  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    It seems to me that most coin clubs welcome those of school age, and I'm not sure I see any sensible reason to exclude them unless they are behavior problem or are pulling some of the stunts that Bill mentioned. Aside from that, the thinking seems pretty asinine to me.

    Every club I've ever been a part of (mostly as a YN actually) has bent over backwards to welcome and teach new collectors of all ages, but especially kids. Were it not for the environment provided by the three local coin clubs I belonged to in middle school and high school, I very much doubt that I would be as interested in coins as I am today. I was lucky though -- my local coin clubs included probably a half dozen Numismatic Ambassadors, several folks who had published books (including Jules Reiver), and people who were noted experts in everything from Bermudan coins to Indian cent doubled dies to shipwrecks.

    I would think that excluding young people by design goes against the mission of any ANA-member club.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    My 10-year-old nephew had developed a flickering interest in coins (doing a State Quarters album) which I was trying to encourage. I convinced his non-collector father to take him to the PAN show a couple weeks ago.

    The club-operated show bends over backwards for YNs. They had the ubiquitous grab-a-handful out of the box of donated coins, but more than that they had a 90-minute program just for YNs that had more giveaways. Each YN got a reference book and an auction catalog and $10 in play money that they could use in a 40-lot auction only for YNs. And any unspent play money can be used in future show YN auctions.

    I saw how much more interested he was after that half-day experience (and the dealers at the show also treated him very well) so I saw first-hand the benefits of having YNs involved.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • In our club, I am somewhat young(at 62 yrs.), but we have been getting several YN's joining in the last year or so. They tend to take a bit of patience, but all of us are in that boat from time to time. Someone else said it earlier in this thread, but it is worth repeating...."they are our future". I am glad that our club is being proactive with the YN's.image
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