Anybody else notice a huge swing lately in PCGS grading modern Jeffersons?

centmaster · May 17, 2004 1:55PM

I just got back results today from a batch of modern nickels. Not a single coin came back on the high side of my estimated split grade, and two of them came back cleaned! By the way, they were all out of mint sets! These results came on the heels of a stellar submission result two weeks ago with the same caliber coins as these were. They were 65FS and 66FS then and today they were 64FS and 65FS (mostly 64.) The only "bright spot" was that my 97P that I pulled out of a regular mint set came back SMS! I have no idea what I'm going to do with that one. Anyone else notice weird things going on w/ modern coins?

nOoBiEeE · May 17, 2004 2:30PM

Can you list the grade results?

Morgans767 · May 17, 2004 4:11PM

is the sms verson of the 1997 worth more? If you disagree with those grades, maybe a presidental review? I find it strange those coins were cleaned, maybe the mint does some sort of cleaning?

pontiacinf · May 17, 2004 9:58PM

sounds like a rogue grader..anyone with brains can spot the 97 sms from a regular mint set p

Neptune · May 17, 2004 10:09PM

I am wondering also, if they will compensate the grades on these new Jeffersons, for the horrible strike. How will this compare with the grading on the older Jeffersons. Sure hope the 2nd new strike is better than the first new one.

It is strange that something straight from the mint would come back as cleaned ...... I would question that - how did you store it once received?

DRG · May 17, 2004 10:40PM

I have two questions.

Are the first three cert. numbers of your latest batch 215....?

What were the first 3 numbers of the batch that graded higher?

I had a similair experience recently. My theory is that different grades are being ID'd by these #'s and who ever 215... is they are rough.
I had a group of coins that all began with 215 come back at least one point low on nearly every coin, then a few months later similar coins came back all with 300.. and all were right on my standards. Last month a third group returned again starting with 215.. and again all undergraded by a point. Maybe I am wrong about this, but I think they have one rouge grader at PCGS and his # is 215...

Anyone else have a similar experience?

seanq · May 17, 2004 11:36PM

Got these results on 5/5:

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION COUNTRY GRADE
5 21537148 1987-P 5C USA MS66FS
6 21537149 1985-D 5C USA MS64FS
7 21537150 1985-P 5C USA MS64FS
8 21537151 1982-D 5C USA MS64FS
9 21537152 1979 5C USA MS64FS
10 21537153 1968-S 5C USA PR68DC

Naturally I thought these were *all* gems when I submitted them, but when I got them back only the '82-D seemed really undergraded - I thought it had a shot at 66. The two '85s were probably a little too dinged up for 65, especially for modern issues.

Sean Reynolds

poorguy · May 17, 2004 11:54PM

So the first 3 digits of the cert # determine the grader? hmmm... interesting dedcution my dear watson.

kieferscoins · May 17, 2004 11:57PM

<< <i>So the first 3 digits of the cert # determine the grader? >>

No, because every coin is seen by at least 2 graders.

Cameron Kiefer

haletj · May 18, 2004 12:08AM

My first ever grading results! What I expected/hoped for!

1 21569922 1915-D 1C USA MS64RD
2 21569923 1926-S 1C USA MS64RB

Russ · May 18, 2004 1:39AM

<< <i>The only "bright spot" was that my 97P that I pulled out of a regular mint set came back SMS! >>

Ah yes, the standard "if it looks really good it must be an SMS" grading method.

Russ, NCNE

Anybody else notice a huge swing lately in PCGS grading modern Jeffersons?

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