Two awesome coins! I think they fit right in with your type set. And you don't even have to worry about crack the 1807 out of a plastic tomb to put in your type set folder .
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OK...Dont pile on me but why isnt that 1807 in a top tier slab? I dont understand, probably because I have poor grading skills, and whoever buys it obviously will, but wouldnt it go for more slabbed? Mike
that is certainly a good question, and I would be surprised if some members here do not "know that coin" and can story us. I'd be interested to know if anyone has seen this coin in person.
<< <i>OK...Dont pile on me but why isnt that 1807 in a top tier slab? I dont understand, probably because I have poor grading skills, and whoever buys it obviously will, but wouldnt it go for more slabbed? Mike >>
Ever get the feeling that some people don't read the entire thread (even if it is a short one) prior to posting? Hmm, let's see ...
<< <i>Yet not in a holder? What's wrong with it? Maybe just as simple as it's not an ms64. Maybe not. >>
Those are both beautiful coins no matter what the grade is.
I tend to agree with you. But I also agree with some posters that buying the 1807 raw and accepting Superior's grade, you're basically gambling against all the other bidders on what the actual grade is or will turn out to be when you start trying to get it into plastic. The worst it could be, based on the image, is AU55 and accelerated but very pretty toning, the best is obviously MS64+ or they would claim higher (and more importantly, it would BE in plastic), and the likely value of the piece is somewhere around MS63 because it's so darned pretty. But I'll bet in hand and not at that exact angle with that bright light, it's actually a lot prettier and more natural looking.
Anyway, I can't afford it but will watch the bidding out of interest.
While I agree with Elwood that the color of the 1796 quarter didn't closely resemble that shown by the images, I strongly disagree with his "AT, AT, AT..." assessment. I did not view the 1807.
The 96 quarter in person doesn't look anything like the picture.
I have noticed Superior and Goldberg images never come close to the real thing. Ever. You would think they would correct this representation. I would then bid on their auctions.
<< <i>Asking "Why is a $25,000 coin NOT in a holder?" is a VERY legitimate question????????????? >>
Perhaps the seller believes that it's better to let the bidders speculate on the slab grade might be. That way they could get a higher bid than if the grade were cut and dried.
Back in the '70s and early '80s when the Goldbergs ran Superior, they often undergraded their coins in their auctions for just that reason. Collectors would look at the coins, decide that they saw "something" that the auction house had not seen, and got ready to raise their bid pattles. It's an alternative approach to overgrading the coins in an effort to get higher prices.
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Two awesome coins! I think they fit right in with your type set. And you don't even have to worry about crack the 1807 out of a plastic tomb to put in your type set folder
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<< <i>OK...Dont pile on me but why isnt that 1807 in a top tier slab? I dont understand, probably because I have poor grading skills, and whoever buys it obviously will, but wouldnt it go for more slabbed? Mike >>
Ever get the feeling that some people don't read the entire thread (even if it is a short one) prior to posting? Hmm, let's see ...
<< <i>Yet not in a holder? What's wrong with it? Maybe just as simple as it's not an ms64. Maybe not. >>
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I tend to agree with you. But I also agree with some posters that buying the 1807 raw and accepting Superior's grade, you're basically gambling against all the other bidders on what the actual grade is or will turn out to be when you start trying to get it into plastic. The worst it could be, based on the image, is AU55 and accelerated but very pretty toning, the best is obviously MS64+ or they would claim higher (and more importantly, it would BE in plastic), and the likely value of the piece is somewhere around MS63 because it's so darned pretty. But I'll bet in hand and not at that exact angle with that bright light, it's actually a lot prettier and more natural looking.
Anyway, I can't afford it but will watch the bidding out of interest.
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rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
AT, AT, AT...
The 07 IS a beautiful coin. Very weakly struck on the rims and does appear to have some rub. But great eye appeal.
I have noticed Superior and Goldberg images never come close to the real thing. Ever. You would think they would correct this representation. I would then bid on their auctions.
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<< <i>Asking "Why is a $25,000 coin NOT in a holder?" is a VERY legitimate question????????????? >>
Perhaps the seller believes that it's better to let the bidders speculate on the slab grade might be. That way they could get a higher bid than if the grade were cut and dried.
Back in the '70s and early '80s when the Goldbergs ran Superior, they often undergraded their coins in their auctions for just that reason. Collectors would look at the coins, decide that they saw "something" that the auction house had not seen, and got ready to raise their bid pattles. It's an alternative approach to overgrading the coins in an effort to get higher prices.
Hey, relax, I was just kiddin'. That's a beauty.
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