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Can you name some coins for which no uncirculated examples are known?
dan1ecu
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...excluding proof-only issues, of course.
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1803 Draped Bust dime?
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1842-0 small date (there is an NGC63 graded from Norweb but the
coin is really an AU...I doubt the MS61 is an UNC either)
1858-s an NGC MS62 is likely not unc.
1859-s None yet graded and to my knowledge none known UNC
1860-s There is an NGC 61 but doubt its UNCticity. Like
Coinosaurus said probably unk in UNC.
1861-s None yet graded and none known UNC to my knowledge
I think eventually all of these will come to light in truly fully UNC.
These are truly the humdingers of the seated quarters. All of the rare CC quarters are known in real UNC. In most cases MS62 and lower coins are not real uncs, just overgraded AU's in 90% of the cases.
roadrunner
That's interesting that so many AU coins are slabbed as MS. Do you find that this happens mostly at NGC, or is PCGS just as guilty of it? Do you personally think that this kind of net-grading is good or bad?
Dan
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Going by the grading from the "good old days" the best ones are in EF. The services have graded a couple as high as AU-50 I think. No true Mint State on is known, and that stat might hold up. The coin has been a much admired rarity for well over 100 years, and no one has found one yet.
The 1802 half cent probably does not exist in Mint State. The best "old reverse" pieces have VF sharpness with problems. The best "new reverse" pieces are in EF.
The 1854-D three dollar gold might not exist in true Unc. I think an MS-62 has been "made," but since a lot of the MS-62 coins that I see are "sliders," a true Mint State example might not exist.
I would imagine that there are a lot of 19th century $10 gold coins that don't exist in Mint State. Those coins were real work horses at least for gold pieces, and many date and mint combinations may not exist in Unc.
I don't buy a whole lot of MS61-62 coins because of the slide that has occured there over the past 12 years. It's almost to the point where you have to purchase MS66 coins to get away from obvious rub and too many field distractions...though you can still find legit and accurately graded MS coins in holders. Those are the ones to buy.
It is still possible to buy legit MS seated/bust type coins in MS62 holders. It just takes a lot of searching and patience. Most are not UNC.
roadrunner
<< <i>2006 Lincoln cent Aren't there a bunch of them stored with aliens in Area 51
The 2009s are the ones you want. That of course, was the redesigned "Railsplitter" reverse in honor of Lincoln's 200th birthday and the last of the pennies to be minted out of metal.
In 2010 we went to the indestrutable ceramic-plastic hybrid composition and that marked the end of the proof Lincolns, actually it marked the end of any different grades, in fact.
By 2014 all coins were composed of the C-P hybrid material and collecting any of them became pointless.
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The list of dated 19th century Liberty gold that doesn't exist in UNC is a long one I'm sure. Dozens and dozens I would think.
roadrunner
Just because the Red Book lists prices for pieces in Unc. does not mean that the coins really exist. In the 19th century collectors did not collect by mint mark. Therefore that factor, plus the fact that $10 was a lot of money back then, contributed to the fact that few pieces were intentionally saved.